PowerTap announces new P1 pedal and C1 chainring power meters

Pity the C1 is only 110 BCD, PT need to come up with a 130 BCD as well.

Nice to see the market becoming more competitive, hopefully prices will become to!

Pity the C1 is only 110 BCD, PT need to come up with a 130 BCD as well. Nice to see the market becoming more competitive, hopefully prices will become to!

There may be other options in the near future however with the majority of the market running 110BCD and the 5 bolt system this is the focus for now. should the chain rings not work on your bike we can offer pedal or hub making PowerTap the only power system that will work on pretty much any bike in one way or another. 

What are the costs !

Current exchange rate $ gives you R15k for the pedals.

Almost double my Stages' price. 

And with the chainrings not Cannondale able, I won't be getting a set anytime soon.

Pity as the MTB is standing without a PM.....

Pity the C1 is only 110 BCD, PT need to come up with a 130 BCD as well. Nice to see the market becoming more competitive, hopefully prices will become to!

130bcd would be nice to avoid having to change cranks.

They do however make provision for 53/39 chainrings, so I gues this is a way to satisfy the bulk of the market.

+1 on anticipated cost.?

A fair comment by someone on another forum that carries my EXACT sentiments:

"Hard to understand what PT is trying to do here. Introducing a $1200 PM in this climate is odd. Let alone one that seems to be a copy of another that's priced similarly and doesn't seem to be flying off the shelves itself.

The chainring one might need some clarification. The strain gauge is attached to the rings? What about wear or a bent ring?"

with the majority of the market running 110BCD

Really?   

I must get new friends.....none of them are running 110.....

Only advantage of pedal is it could work with carbon crank I assume ? And I suppose you could swap between bikes. Although not mtb pedals by the look of it.

Always a challenge with multiple bikes !!

Road bike, track bike, 2x mtb's :-(

Pricing and availability?

Only advantage of pedal is it could work with carbon crank I assume ? And I suppose you could swap between bikes. Although not mtb pedals by the look of it.

 

Always a challenge with multiple bikes !!

 

Road bike, track bike, 2x mtb's :-(

That is the idea yes, both with the pedal and chainrings is that they will work on carbon cranks. 

Mtb "power pedals" will always be a challenge because as with any thing, you ADD technology and something that is beneficial to training and all of a sudden the weight weenies cry "it's too heavy/bulky/not fast/will slow me down....

A fair comment by someone on another forum that carries my EXACT sentiments:

 

"Hard to understand what PT is trying to do here. Introducing a $1200 PM in this climate is odd. Let alone one that seems to be a copy of another that's priced similarly and doesn't seem to be flying off the shelves itself.

 

The chainring one might need some clarification. The strain gauge is attached to the rings? What about wear or a bent ring?"

 

 

Really?   

I must get new friends.....none of them are running 110.....

I think a company like PowerTap has done research on the global market and found that the majority of the GLOBAL market runs 110 BCD and its just the Saffas who are playing catch up....

Current exchange rate $ gives you R15k for the pedals.

Almost double my Stages' price. 

 

And with the chainrings not Cannondale able, I won't be getting a set anytime soon.

 

Pity as the MTB is standing without a PM.....

I suppose lowering yourself ride PowerTap is not gonna happen then huh...

I suppose lowering yourself ride PowerTap is not gonna happen then huh...

Nope,........not lowering for sure....I WISH I was that rich to afford one!

But if you have a GOOD look around you.....about 2% of people have powermeters? 

How will you penetrate this market?  If I was to be......lets say a power meter manufacturer....?

Definitely price.

Why will I not buy PT?  It is too expensive for the advantage I get. 

And the "general" compact riding dude will also think so......

At this point in time PT brought out a product "just like the rest, pricing like the rest".

So it boils down to brand loyalty. 

Don't take stuff so personal on this forum dude.  You won't get out alive.  Trust me on this one.

Take notes and LEARN/LISTEN to your audience. 

Good luck on your sales.

I think a company like PowerTap has done research on the global market and found that the majority of the GLOBAL market runs 110 BCD and its just the Saffas who are playing catch up....

Well....with the highest mountain sitting in Sabie and the rest of the SA callender climbing 1000m per race I guess Powertap is about 20 years ahead of the SA market as there is not much of a need for compact cranks. 

Thanks Spinnekop, it does boil down to brand loyalty, you stick to what makes you happy. 

Simple fact is the pedals work out to be cheaper and more accurate than the Garmin/Polar options and the Spider/Ring is the same price as the cheaper Stages offerings - apples for apples...As a company that produces stuff for an industry like ours you will NEVER make 100% of people happy 100% of the time. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

and all of a sudden the weight weenies cry "it's too heavy/bulky/not fast/will slow me down....

It is not so much the weight that bothers most MTBers...

If you pay attention to the market, you'll see most MTBers don't worry about weigh....

Now....

Ground clearance on the other hand and scraping pedals......not THERE is a bit of an issue.

But maybe that is just me......

As a company that produces stuff for an industry like ours you will NEVER make 100% of people happy 100% of the time.

Nail on the head! 

I would definitely be interested in the chainring option. Some more info and pics available on dc rainmaker and bikeradar

 and the Spider/Ring is the same price as the cheaper Stages offerings

Stages....R12k?

Spider....$1100? 

mmmmmmmmm

heheheh..

Also.  Chainrings I have to replace every 25000km.  Let's say 2 years.

Stages don't. 

I personally think it is a different market all together.

Why did PT make it part of the chainrings?  Does not add up for me......you are looking at "Tru ruf tuf Saffa Mountain bikers that LOVE to ride in the mud and grind dust and wash their bike 2 times a year."

Chainrings is a bit of a raplace-once-a-month type of thing if I have a look at Sani/Sabie/Epic riders.....

Yes?  No?

The chainrings are replaceable just like any other ring...it is the spider you are buying...but you knew that...Listen I'm done answering Trolls do your homework before slating a new product and nay saying everything about it...

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The chainrings are replaceable just like any other ring...it is the spider you are buying...

 

http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.imdserve.com/images/news/2015/03/14/1426297458939-jhlbcnqvovdo-700-80.jpg

That spider moves inboard quite a bit.  Is this BB86 / BB386 compatible?

The chainrings are replaceable just like any other ring...it is the spider you are buying...but you knew that...Listen I'm done answering Trolls do your homework before slating a new product and nay saying everything about it...

 

http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.imdserve.com/images/news/2015/03/14/1426297458939-jhlbcnqvovdo-700-80.jpg

Ha!

SO ek lees soos my gat.  Makes better sense!

130bcd would be nice to avoid having to change cranks.

They do however make provision for 53/39 chainrings, so I gues this is a way to satisfy the bulk of the market.

 

+1 on anticipated cost.?

Bulk of the market means Shimano, means 4-bolt 110 BCD.

Powertap also needs to look at the TT market, because powertap hubs don't work in discs[1].  That means they should also look at 54 and 56 tooth rings.

[1] disc wheel covers do work.

The chainrings are replaceable just like any other ring...it is the spider you are buying...but you knew that...Listen I'm done answering Trolls do your homework before slating a new product and nay saying everything about it...

 

If the rings are replaceable without shipping to the factory for recalibration, and the spider is small enough so it works on most bikes, I think they have large potential market.

For me the challenge with power meters is how to have a training aid that covers different bike types and equipment ???

Pedal idea is good, but they do take a hammering on a mtb. Not sure the damage that could cause.