JimFrase Posted January 23, 2008 Share If I have a prov seeding of A (was VA but I don't have a licence) but have not ridden a bike since the 2007 argus and probably will not be able to until the argus 2008 . Which group should I start in so I can wheelsuck along to a reasonable time in my untrained state, don't get taken down by an idiot and finish at a reasonable hour of the day. I think A-E are out as I will not hang on at the hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canaris Posted January 23, 2008 Share um, um, .................................. A group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Zone Posted January 23, 2008 Share You still have about 7 weeks so you should be able to get some legs for the Argus. I did the 04 argus with only 7 weeks training (after a 7 month total layof) and was fine in the H group. did about 3:20 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanieFiets Posted January 23, 2008 Share Check last years times on winningtime. You should finish close to 3h00 if you start training TODAY. Think D should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linnega Posted January 23, 2008 Share I reckon start in A and don't try too hard to hang on over Edinburgh Drive, then just use the other groups as they come past to help you through the rest of the ride. But 7 weeks of training could get you into reasonable shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFrase Posted January 23, 2008 Share I don't think there is a chance of sub 3hrs if I start in A (or anywhere else). Once I am dropped I lose 5 minutes immediately plus if I finish with the leaders of the group behind they are usually about 2-3mins off the group infront so loosing your group means a 7-8 minute penalty. With VA and VB behind racing I will be less likely to hang with the surges so thats another couple of groups dropped so thats 20mins lost. F seems like the best bet I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widget Posted January 23, 2008 Share I don't think there is a chance of sub 3hrs if I start in A (or anywhere else). Once I am dropped I lose 5 minutes immediately plus if I finish with the leaders of the group behind they are usually about 2-3mins off the group infront so loosing your group means a 7-8 minute penalty. With VA and VB behind racing I will be less likely to hang with the surges so thats another couple of groups dropped so thats 20mins lost. F seems like the best bet I think. Hmmmmmm, I have a similar problem Jim, last year I rode VD but this year I didnt license and hardly did any of the big races except the 94.7 and I crashed. I see my Argus seeding is "A" for this year but I am not really in shape at all, and after crashing out on Sunday again, I am not certain its gonna happen anyway - so I figure, I am gonna start back with the wifey in "G" and see what happens.!! Hope I can hold on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur1 Posted January 23, 2008 Share I would follow Linnega's advice. I have been doing the same lately with reasonable success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niterider Posted January 23, 2008 Share I don't think there is a chance of sub 3hrs if I start in A (or anywhere else). Once I am dropped I lose 5 minutes immediately plus if I finish with the leaders of the group behind they are usually about 2-3mins off the group infront so loosing your group means a 7-8 minute penalty. With VA and VB behind racing I will be less likely to hang with the surges so thats another couple of groups dropped so thats 20mins lost. F seems like the best bet I think. I'd start with A. A few years ago I was in the same situation. A group dropped me within the first k, but I got to enjoy the cheering fans while B passed me. I think I had C group down hospital bend until Edinburgh Drive. Ended up spending a lot of time later with F, G and H. Managed 3:40 by doing that, and got to see lots of other cyclists Most embarassing moment was me getting passed by a fat chick on an mtb wearing slipslops, going up Smits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brakkies Sport Fotos Posted January 23, 2008 Share Yes, start A, get over Edinbrugh drive with front B, sit with B till you hit the hills after simonstown, Get C and D to pull you over Chappies and from suikerbossie, just jump in from who ever is coming from behind. Without training, you should still go under 3h15 - 3h20 if we have good weather, if its raining with wind, not many is going under 3h.popeye2008-01-23 05:49:39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder Woman Posted January 23, 2008 Share Join me in H and we can work together for a sub 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky DQ Posted January 23, 2008 Share You should try to move down to B, Why? Because After the racing men (Giro), racing women, racing tandems, unconventionals and hand cycles, the order will be as follows:AVA (Vets 30-39)VB (Vets 40-49)VM (Masters 50+)B,C,D,E,F etcIn case you need help deciding, your index is xyz. The cut-off for A is 13 and B is 15.5. If you start in A the gaps will be bigger between the groups, more time on your own and they get unhappy with ppl messing with them. Secondly, they don't always race for time, but race for place.If you start in B the groups are closer together and they all ride for time. it is an easier ride as the pace is more constant.M 2c's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butafly Posted January 23, 2008 Share i rode last year after a break of 2 years. got a substitution and was placed in E but rode with a friend in PB. we still had about 20 rabbits that went from the gun. we then rode on our own and finished in 3.35. it was a pleasant ride and i was surprised that there was no need to dodge the slower riders as they all kept mostly to the left. we just hit a bit of a jam on the last bit of Smits and because we weren't going to "time" we just waited for a gap to open. so no matter were you ride there will always be the hardcore cyclists wanting to race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarmacPro Posted January 23, 2008 Share WW I hope you are strong I'm also in H and need to get a good time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder Woman Posted January 23, 2008 Share WW I hope you are strong I'm also in H and need to get a good time Yippee...Yip, i'll be strong as an ox by then I have one person to work with!! ...anymore around??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMort Posted January 23, 2008 Share WW I hope you are strong I'm also in H and need to get a good time Yippee...Yip' date=' i'll be strong as an ox by then I have one person to work with!! ...anymore around??? [/quote'] Yep. I'm also in H. Anyone else ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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