Vetplant Posted June 2, 2021 Share 34 minutes ago, Christie said: Froome 93d @-2:12 It is not just a problem of a few extra kg. Power must be below par as well. I dont think ISN should take him to the TDF. He wont be contesting GC or stages. (Louis 55th @-1:22) And the thing is : Louis was never at the pointy end of the TTs, he fought hard to just not lose too much. (Still amazing that he did top 10 twice at TDF) Whereas Froome was right up there contesting for the top TT position. I'd say take him for the press and then make him a workhorse for the chosen leader. Woods should be a shoe-in for leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsw Posted June 2, 2021 Share I see Tom Pidcock also had a bad crash while training on his time trial bike. The frame snapped into 2 while he also broke his collarbone. As a result he is out of the Tour de Suisse. At least he was luckier than poor Froome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid the Sloth Posted June 2, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, dsw said: I see Tom Pidcock also had a bad crash while training on his time trial bike. The frame snapped into 2 while he also broke his collarbone. As a result he is out of the Tour de Suisse. At least he was luckier than poor Froome. Wayne pudding Mol, dsw and TheoG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 3, 2021 Share Is that a Chinerello, from a shop near Cedar Drive? Jokes aside, never nice to see a broken bike and wheel. DanMan and Andymann 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted June 3, 2021 Share 31 minutes ago, Frosty said: Is that a Chinerello, from a shop near Cedar Drive? Jokes aside, never nice to see a broken bike and wheel. If only he had disc brakes. Frosty, SwissVan and Underachiever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted June 3, 2021 Share 13 hours ago, Christie said: Froome 93d @-2:12 It is not just a problem of a few extra kg. Power must be below par as well. I dont think ISN should take him to the TDF. He wont be contesting GC or stages. (Louis 55th @-1:22) Yeah, my initial reference to Froomey's weight was after watching his video where he emphasises getting to race weight for the Tour de France. It led to a variety of responses on his ability to keep up with other rivals. No doubt, Christie, his level is that of a domestique at the very least. He attitude is exemplary but it does seem that his heart wants it but his body can't regain any semblance of racing form as GC contender. ISN will be kopkrapping with their roster for Le Tour. TheoG, Frosty and Vetplant 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffsVintageBikes Posted June 3, 2021 Share Unless he's pulling off the biggest fake in the industry then I don't think he's at the level of a top domestique at the moment so why even take him to the Tour? What is puzzling for me is they will have seen & studied all his power stats and performances in Tenerife and they'll know exactly where he is in terms of preparation and in comparison to the other guys on the camp and they have persisted with getting him ready for the Tour. IMHO.... They're either hiding it because it's bad or they're hiding it because they're planning something big and they're hoping to catch the other teams off guard. Frosty and Jakkals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymann Posted June 3, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, Frosty said: Is that a Chinerello, from a shop near Cedar Drive? Jokes aside, never nice to see a broken bike and wheel. Jeez remember that thread! Was really interesting to follow. Frosty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted June 3, 2021 Share On 6/1/2021 at 4:49 PM, 'Dale said: Watching Froome struggling as he still rehabilitates and watching the level of racing now. Fork-it. He has clearly gone backwards and it seems the racing has gone forwards. His life after sport is shaping up already as he is an investor and stakeholder in the American company Hammerhead. I watch a lot of Lance/George You Tube videos (I know, shock horror cheaters!!)..... But anyway, both of them often say, no way they would like to be racing these guys today, the level is through the roof. The tip of the spear is now very sharp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted June 3, 2021 Share I hope Froomie makes it back, it would be one of the greatest comebacks in cycling history I am still rooting for him, I just think he needs to commit to a longer build. Or perhaps if he is using these races as part of that build, not drop hints that he is close to racing form. If he gets thrashed by Louis in a TT, he is far from racing form Wayne pudding Mol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted June 3, 2021 Share I don't think he is faking bad performance, 2 mins down on the ITT yesterday! My heart goes out to him for trying, but it doesn't look like its going to be happening *sniff* Hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted June 3, 2021 Share 31 minutes ago, BuffsVintageBikes said: Unless he's pulling off the biggest fake in the industry then I don't think he's at the level of a top domestique at the moment so why even take him to the Tour? What is puzzling for me is they will have seen & studied all his power stats and performances in Tenerife and they'll know exactly where he is in terms of preparation and in comparison to the other guys on the camp and they have persisted with getting him ready for the Tour. IMHO.... They're either hiding it because it's bad or they're hiding it because they're planning something big and they're hoping to catch the other teams off guard. It's an absolute mystery to me. He is clearly not in form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted June 3, 2021 Share I'm hoping Froomie is feeling the effects of his last Tenerife training camp, all those steep hills ( Chris Froome trains up 'steepest climb in the world' as he feels 'closer to where he needs to be' before Tour de France | Cycling Weekly ) and high altitude coupled with a lack of form and then his TT yesterday does not look to bad ???? it was a bastard of a course and quite a few riders lost more time than would be expected on a 16km TT. With the TDF having 2 ITT (58 km of TT) its yet again another not so good a sign for Spiderman. That being said, there were also some exceptional performances, notably Lukas Pöstelberger who TT'd like a real pro... don't think he got out of the TT position very much, a good example of TT skills, and then Izagirre as well Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted June 3, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, BuffsVintageBikes said: Unless he's pulling off the biggest fake in the industry then I don't think he's at the level of a top domestique at the moment so why even take him to the Tour? What is puzzling for me is they will have seen & studied all his power stats and performances in Tenerife and they'll know exactly where he is in terms of preparation and in comparison to the other guys on the camp and they have persisted with getting him ready for the Tour. IMHO.... They're either hiding it because it's bad or they're hiding it because they're planning something big and they're hoping to catch the other teams off guard. Training fit and racing fit are not exactly the same animal. Underachiever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne pudding Mol Posted June 3, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, BuffsVintageBikes said: Unless he's pulling off the biggest fake in the industry then I don't think he's at the level of a top domestique at the moment so why even take him to the Tour? What is puzzling for me is they will have seen & studied all his power stats and performances in Tenerife and they'll know exactly where he is in terms of preparation and in comparison to the other guys on the camp and they have persisted with getting him ready for the Tour. IMHO.... They're either hiding it because it's bad or they're hiding it because they're planning something big and they're hoping to catch the other teams off guard. On current evidence he'd be lucky to be a domestique for a continental team. On will and determination he's a TDF contender but you cannot will a win if your physical output won't match So either he's convinced them he'll come good and they are gambling because they are heavily invested in him or they are gambling because he's sandbagging and they are trying to get good odds I don't think he's going to the tour, it would be undignified to be riding with the sprinters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted June 3, 2021 Share 4 minutes ago, Wayne pudding Mol said: On current evidence he'd be lucky to be a domestique for a continental team. On will and determination he's a TDF contender but you cannot will a win if your physical output won't match So either he's convinced them he'll come good and they are gambling because they are heavily invested in him or they are gambling because he's sandbagging and they are trying to get good odds I don't think he's going to the tour, it would be undignified to be riding with the sprinters Pffftttt! I bet the tue for his asthma meds is already in the works for July. Edited June 3, 2021 by TNT1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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