marko35s Posted April 29, 2015 Share my next pair of flat shoes will probably also be skate shoes. I cant justify the price of 510's currenly.And they are really just a glorified pair of skate shoes (the free riders anyway)No, no they're not. Nofearnofun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted April 29, 2015 Share whats so special about 510 besides being midlifecrisis cool? they grip the soles are stiff enough that your feet don't hurt after long rides the soles do not have any tread pattern in the front so the pins on your pedals carve into the rubber, that way your feet find the exact same spot every time you put your foot down. Almost the same positioning effect that cleats have. Eddy Gordo and Brian Fantana 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G00SE Posted April 29, 2015 Share I don't agree ... I tried riding my Jekyll with my old DC shoes I used to use for flatland. It felt like I was ice skating on my pedals compared to my Free riders (even with the big holes in the sole). The DC's were also far to flexible. The DC's were acceptable for flatland because you spend more time standing on the tyres than the pedals. No, no they're not. I'm referring to the freeriders specifically.Some of the more beefy ones are a lot stronger, stiffer etc. But the freeriders... Skate shoes with sticky soles. I found my old skate shoes gripped pretty well on my flats, maybe not as well as the 510's, but at R1500 to R500, they dont have tripple the grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted April 29, 2015 Share I'm referring to the freeriders specifically.Some of the more beefy ones are a lot stronger, stiffer etc. But the freeriders... Skate shoes with sticky soles. I found my old skate shoes gripped pretty well on my flats, maybe not as well as the 510's, but at R1500 to R500, they dont have tripple the grip.Again having had both you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G00SE Posted April 29, 2015 Share Again having had both you are wrong. I too have both currently. Can you explain why you feel the Freeriders are so much more than a skate shoe? other than the soles. Please dont get me wrong, I love my 510's, I just cant justify what you pay for them right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 29, 2015 Share I too have both currently. Can you explain why you feel the Freeriders are so much more than a skate shoe? other than the soles. Please dont get me wrong, I love my 510's, I just cant justify what you pay for them right now.It's the compound of the rubber on the sole that makes them special. I remember trying to ride flats in my Adio Bams. Night and day compared to the 5-10's. Yes, they're expensive. But not as expensive as some of the disco shoe options, and then if you look for some specials, you caan find them for relatively cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted April 29, 2015 Share I too have both currently. Can you explain why you feel the Freeriders are so much more than a skate shoe? other than the soles. Please dont get me wrong, I love my 510's, I just cant justify what you pay for them right now.Just to clarify do you have the Freerider or the Freerider Vxi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR ◣◢ Posted April 29, 2015 Share Will bring in some 5.10s in August when a friend comes to SA from the UK. Much more cost effective from CRC to Uk than to SA. Robodog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G00SE Posted April 29, 2015 Share It's the compound of the rubber on the sole that makes them special. I remember trying to ride flats in my Adio Bams. Night and day compared to the 5-10's. Yes, they're expensive. But not as expensive as some of the disco shoe options, and then if you look for some specials, you caan find them for relatively cheap Yes, but thats what im saying - other than the soles, the freerider is pretty much a skate shoe.To be fair, I havent done a whole bunch of riding in my skate shoes, but when I have ridden with them it wasnt night and day.If I could get 510's for a good price I'd choose them any day. Just to clarify do you have the Freerider or the Freerider Vxi? Just the freeriders, the vxi's have more to them. Like these: Nofearnofun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted April 29, 2015 Share Yes, but thats what im saying - other than the soles, the freerider is pretty much a skate shoe.To be fair, I havent done a whole bunch of riding in my skate shoes, but when I have ridden with them it wasnt night and day.If I could get 510's for a good price I'd choose them any day. Just the freeriders, the vxi's have more to them. Like these:510_freeride_blk_grey.jpgFair enough, I have the freerider Vxi and they are a lot stronger than any skate shoe I have seen. Many crashes and on a few occasions discovering a tree stump I didn't know existed has shown the protection in the shoe is well thought out and works well. Eddy Gordo and G00SE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G00SE Posted April 29, 2015 Share Fair enough, I have the freerider Vxi and they are a lot stronger than any skate shoe I have seen.Many crashes and on a few occasions discovering a tree stump I didn't know existed has shown the protection in the shoe is well thought out and works well. Yup, the vxi is more burly and offers much more protection than the freerider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nofearnofun Posted April 29, 2015 Share Yes, but thats what im saying - other than the soles, the freerider is pretty much a skate shoe.To be fair, I havent done a whole bunch of riding in my skate shoes, but when I have ridden with them it wasnt night and day.If I could get 510's for a good price I'd choose them any day. Just the freeriders, the vxi's have more to them. Like these:510_freeride_blk_grey.jpg Fair enough, I have the freerider Vxi and they are a lot stronger than any skate shoe I have seen. Many crashes and on a few occasions discovering a tree stump I didn't know existed has shown the protection in the shoe is well thought out and works well.5.10's Proving that arguing about shoes is not just for chicks... After reading this thread I decided my tired free rider vxi's needed a pair of impact vxi friends so I ordered a pair G00SE, Robodog and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawler Posted April 29, 2015 Share I have the free riders above as well as danny mac's (both very similar) Before I knew about 510 I used to buy R1100 DC shoes or (insert previous skateshoe company name here / now fashion shoe company) every 6 months as they would simply fall apart. Sole eaten away and soft, hurting after long rides. I still have my first pair of 510s which are now 4 years old and they are still in great condition minus the dirt stains. Besides for longevity they are also much better for riding as there were designed for it... I constantly use to have toe issues but no more. So for me its either buy fashion shoes (i.e. DC's) that only last 6 months before dogs breakfast for half the price of 510s, or fork out 2k for proper riding shoes which will outlast 3 pairs of fashion shoes. Nofearnofun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted April 29, 2015 Share Why insist in posting something off topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 29, 2015 Share Why insist in posting something off topic?You know why. Anyway. On the video, and something that we have all (flat pedal supporters) been saying - if you're starting out, learn the basics on flats before deciding to switch. Don't start out on cleats. Edited April 29, 2015 by El Capitan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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