Nick Posted June 24, 2015 Share The CycleOps PowerSync is an indoor trainer with an onboard power meter to accurately measure your training efforts. The trainer is operated by your iOS or Android device via the VirtualTraining software. We'll be buzzing away in the early mornings of winter to bring you a full review of the PowerSync trainer and VirtualTraining software in July. Click here to view the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose! Posted June 24, 2015 Share This is really awesome training tools. (as also the Power beam Pro. Online racing is great and big fun. Riding video routes with controlled resistance is quit realistic and time passes quick. But for me there is a down side also. I cannot use my Power beam without a app. And apps cost money. Every month so I was quit disappointed once I realized that I was unable to use (power reading / setting the resistance manually) my R12k toy without an monthly paid app. Cycleops Virtual Trainer offer some free ride option, but the main goal is to rather demo the app. And only limit it to a 20 minutes session which is quit useless. So if you consider buying one, also be prepared to be sucked into the world of greedy apps. Jorrie and Godzilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madone69 Posted June 24, 2015 Share If i am not mistaken,you can use the trainer with a joule and control the resistance that way, without software. Zwift is currently also free and control the resistance,but it has limitations. Ride on Edited June 24, 2015 by Madone69 SwissVan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NISI Posted June 24, 2015 Share This is really awesome training tools. (as also the Power beam Pro. Online racing is great and big fun. Riding video routes with controlled resistance is quit realistic and time passes quick. But for me there is a down side also. I cannot use my Power beam without a app. And apps cost money. Every month so I was quit disappointed once I realized that I was unable to use (power reading / setting the resistance manually) my R12k toy without an monthly paid app. Cycleops Virtual Trainer offer some free ride option, but the main goal is to rather demo the app. And only limit it to a 20 minutes session which is quit useless. So if you consider buying one, also be prepared to be sucked into the world of greedy apps.I don't go the online racing route ,just the joule gps to control the unit-no monthly fees(perhaps a bit more bring) SwissVan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose! Posted June 24, 2015 Share If i am not mistaken,you can use the trainer with a joule and control the resistance that way, without software.Zwift is currently also free and control the resistance,but it has limitations.Ride on But Joule is expensive and I already have a Garmin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSquared Posted June 24, 2015 Share Mongoose, seems like you're still battling???? Go look at Peripedal. www.peripedal.com. This is about as simple as it gets for controlling your cycleops powersync.Works like a charm for me Mongoose! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose! Posted June 24, 2015 Share Mongoose, seems like you're still battling???? Go look at Peripedal. www.peripedal.com. This is about as simple as it gets for controlling your cycleops powersync.Works like a charm for meThanks.Will it works with an ant plus desktop setup? So the Power beam only has ant plus. No Andriod or Ipad/Apple - only desktop with Windows 7 Highly appreciate thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzavazza Posted June 24, 2015 Share recently got the powersync and the joule. great combo i can recommend, however it has to be noted the software and applications are 20th century. there is the virtualtraining online portal, then there are 2 additional thick applications you need installed on your pc, namely poweragent and virtualtraining. if i had a garmin i supect there would be little need for the joule, but the joule adds value as all the data is available and it easily controls the indoor trainer. In addition to the web app portal, and the 2 applications, there is an additional app for your phone to sync the Joule.....I have nothing to compare this experience to for indoor trainers and software, but it is far from ideal.The whole point of all these gadgets is the data and what you do with it, unless you buy purely to get indoors and out of the cold and rain, now i need to figure this out for myself to see it can help me train more effectively or gain power etc......wish me luck! Mongoose! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiriS Posted June 24, 2015 Share Thanks.Will it works with an ant plus desktop setup? So the Power beam only has ant plus. No Andriod or Ipad/Apple - only desktop with Windows 7 Highly appreciate thanks!My Power Beam is Bluetooth... Mongoose! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSquared Posted June 25, 2015 Share I have a powersync ant+ , garmin edge 810, Peripedal on my laptop linked to a large flatscreen, as my setup. Peripedal can be loaded with any custom work out and control your powersync or kicker etc, I have ported almost all the sufferfest videos over. Peripedal will show all metrics during training, store metrics for later analysis, post metrics after workout to your strava and/or training peaks profile. Wife runs another user and bike profile, we alt training days and she uses the same equipment setup but with different bike. The 810 is not required, use it only because I am a tech geek and I can. Beauty on ant+ is that you can have multiple measuring devices linked to a single transmitting device ie heart rate monitor and/or cadence sensor and/or powersync. So my pain cave consists of:Software: $75 once off, 3 yrs agoPowersync :R10.5kFlatscreen: 32"Laptop: corporate blockBike:...well Mongoose! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose! Posted June 25, 2015 Share What is the price of a Joule 3.0? Guess the 1.0 and 2.0 will not be able to control the resistance on the Power beam? I am not after the GPS function of a Joule, only want to control the resistance of my Power beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted June 25, 2015 Share I also want to race online with the hubbers, but all this techno mumbo jumbo is all to confusing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BicyclePower Posted June 25, 2015 Share Just to clarify the comments re the Joule to control the PowerSync trainer, there are two options, the Joule GPS and the Joule 2.0 (same features just no GPS) these units will control the trainer. Garmins cannot control the trainer as they do not have the capability to "talk" to the trainer, they can only "listen" so your Garmin will display the same data as a Joule but will not be able to adjust the resistance. In terms of apps, without a paid up subscription to the CycleOps Virtual Training app you can still do the freeride option, and that is limited to 1h, once the 1h is done, you can restart and do another hour should you wish. You are not tied into the monthly subscription either, you can buy 1 month and not use it again for 6 months then renew again when you want to. This is a setting in the app when you sign up - auto renew is a default setting so be aware to change this to "off" when you sign up. Mongoose! and SwissVan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speeltyd Posted June 25, 2015 Share This is really awesome training tools. (as also the Power beam Pro. Online racing is great and big fun. Riding video routes with controlled resistance is quit realistic and time passes quick. But for me there is a down side also. I cannot use my Power beam without a app. And apps cost money. Every month so I was quit disappointed once I realized that I was unable to use (power reading / setting the resistance manually) my R12k toy without an monthly paid app. Cycleops Virtual Trainer offer some free ride option, but the main goal is to rather demo the app. And only limit it to a 20 minutes session which is quit useless. So if you consider buying one, also be prepared to be sucked into the world of greedy apps.Jeez guys - it's only $6 pm! No train smash - and the apps are wonderful - such a wide selection, all the stats, .... and is maintained, thus always up to date. Come on now, if you can afford R12k for the trainer, R100 pm is nothing! I enjoy mine to the hilt! BicyclePower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BicyclePower Posted June 25, 2015 Share Hi all, just to be clear, the PowerSync (which makes use of the classic series trainer frame shared by the CycleOps Fluid 2) will accommodate 29" wheels, the concern is the size / volume of the wheel, wheels below a 2.1" will have clearance above that the tire will make contact with the ground, all that is needed is to raise the trainer, maybe some tiles inserted under the trainer feet will help.... here are images as to what i am referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BicyclePower Posted June 25, 2015 Share As for the comments on the subscription fees guys you are by no means forced to buy the CycleOps Virtual Training application when buying the trainer !! other software packages include Zwift (free to use for now), TrainerRoad (+/- $10/mth), PeriPedal (costs unknown) and many others i am sure. the CVT app is one of the cheaper apps out there !! CVT also allows free ride for 1h where you can control the trainer via a tablet/phone, this is FREE (limited to 1h) if you want to exit then reenter the app to do a longer workout you welcome to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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