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Not worried about the typical HRmax formula. Did a lactate threshold test in 2009 that indicated my max nearer to 197. Just needed to know if it is something I needed to have checked. Please do pm me the contact details. Thanks

 

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This is something i am concerned about at the moment...only because i am at that age (49) and fuel my body with junk...how far do you have to go to damage your heart or parts of it...just how much can you push yourself?

 

some research show that extended  periods of extreme workouts can do some serious damage...the question is how far is extreme for each individual.

 

there are rules of thumb like 220 - your age which would indicate that i shouldnt go over 171...i did a threshold test on a bicycle the other day and managed to maintain what felt like a comfortable heart rate of just over 180 for 20 minutes...i contacted the doctor because i answered yes to one of the questions in the indemnity form...his response...there is nothing wrong with your heart if  you can maintain that rate for 20 minutes.

 

i had to visit a heart specialist a couple years ago after a few incidents...was rushed off to ER hooked up on ecg...which i thought were heart attacks...he put me on a treadmill and told me if you can reach 170 and dont die trying...my heart is strong as an ox  :) it turns out i had 3 dislocated ribs which where causing the discomfort...pains in the chest.

 

A tip for everyone...this is what i have learnt form people who have had bypass surgery and heart attacks.

 

if you feel a tingling feeling in your left arm and pain in your throat and your jaw becomes tight chance are you in the crapper already...best you get to a hospital ASAP

 

If you believe someone is having a heart attack just ask them to say their name...if they battle to speak...good chance they could be experiencing a heart attack

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I wouldn't worry too much about it. Ive been riding bikes for about 25years, hard for about 1/2 of that. I was worried about a condition I had, and a nurse said that it could be a heart problem, so I went to see the heart doc. His reply to me was that my heart was as strong as an ox's, although my heart walls were thicker, a condition seen in mtbers and x-country skiers.

My heart rate when I'm pushing it still averages 183, and peaks at 201. And thats still at my present ***-sleg state.

Watch your recovery period, and be worried if that becomes much longer. Small fluctuations are okay.

 

That said, if you are worried, see a cardiologist, peace of mind is best.

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Watch your recovery period, and be worried if that becomes much longer. Small fluctuations are okay.

 

That said, if you are worried, see a cardiologist, peace of mind is best.

 

This.........has been shown to be a better predictor of underlying heart conditions and abnormalities.

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Out on a run once I looked down at my Garmin, it was telling me my heart rate was at something like 107% percent of my max

 

Scared the crap out of me! - I dont run with my heart rate monitor any more  :thumbup:

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Better than what exactly? a 12 lead ECG machine? not likely.... in fact I would say impossible.

 

I am not discounting the value and importance of a full blown stress ECG (even coupled with doppler echocardiography). However, the financial implications to doing a screening regularly is high. Monitoring HRR is however an easy, simple and relatively cheap way to monitor what is going on wrt cardiac functioning. Should there be an anomaly with HRR, at least it is being picked up early (and not just attributing it to not being fit enough).

 

HRR.pdf

HRR001.pdf

HRR002.pdf

HRR003.pdf

HRR004.pdf

HRR005.pdf

 

 

 

Simple tool with significant value.

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Listen to V12 Man

 

Hey......you have no ears PAMPOENGESIGGIE..........my ore is net ornamente (volgens my ma).

 

Hope the tummy has settled.

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I am not discounting the value and importance of a full blown stress ECG (even coupled with doppler echocardiography). However, the financial implications to doing a screening regularly is high. Monitoring HRR is however an easy, simple and relatively cheap way to monitor what is going on wrt cardiac functioning. Should there be an anomaly with HRR, at least it is being picked up early (and not just attributing it to not being fit enough).

 

attachicon.gifHRR.pdf

attachicon.gifHRR001.pdf

 

Simple tool with significant value.

I have a few issues with the way the selected their sample population, but in general a change in HRR should indicate something pathlogical going on.

 

But the studies just prove that the less cardiac capable you are, the lower your HRR - which to me is self evident. As to it's use as a field test, the jury is still out on that.

 

What to me is probably a better indicator of cardiac recovery is now incorporated into a number of commercial heart rate monitors - Heart Rate Variability - this definately does show up some issues - but still it's not good enough as a predictor yet using simple heart rate monitors (imho ) - using a proper ECG machine shows up a lot more than just this.

 

http://www.polar.com/us-en/support/Heart_Rate_Variability__HRV_

for the laymans version.

 

I suspect there is a lot more that can be learned with this than is currently being done, and I think its a good thing to have easily available to the athlete - although interpretation might become problematic.

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I have a few issues with the way the selected their sample population, but in general a change in HRR should indicate something pathlogical going on.

 

But the studies just prove that the less cardiac capable you are, the lower your HRR - which to me is self evident. As to it's use as a field test, the jury is still out on that.

 

What to me is probably a better indicator of cardiac recovery is now incorporated into a number of commercial heart rate monitors - Heart Rate Variability - this definately does show up some issues - but still it's not good enough as a predictor yet using simple heart rate monitors (imho ) - using a proper ECG machine shows up a lot more than just this.

 

http://www.polar.com/us-en/support/Heart_Rate_Variability__HRV_

for the laymans version.

 

I suspect there is a lot more that can be learned with this than is currently being done, and I think its a good thing to have easily available to the athlete - although interpretation might become problematic.

 

Now if we can get a few of the Virtual Training Junkies together.....hook them up to some machines (VO2, lactate, ECG and maybe EEG for measure, just to be safe).......and do a longitudinal study on some of these parameters........possible article or two can be published. 

 

Last article:

HRR009.pdf

 

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Now if we can get a few of the Virtual Training Junkies together.....hook them up to some machines (VO2, lactate, ECG and maybe EEG for measure, just to be safe).......and do a longitudinal study on some of these parameters........possible article or two can be published. 

 

Last article:

attachicon.gifHRR009.pdf

This would be interesting if you could get them to train/test while sick as well.....

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