fandacious Posted May 6, 2016 Share From SAIDS Website: got those - but that list doesnt seem very complete? where is DG, evans, et al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted May 6, 2016 Share Never knew Owen Hannie was a doper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted May 6, 2016 Share I think this is rad, I have made my feelings clear towards this. I am in no way a racing snake, hell I only do 1 or 2 events a year. But if you dope go do competitive cross stitch or ten pin bowling. Don't come back. fandacious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted May 6, 2016 Share got those - but that list doesnt seem very complete? where is DG, evans, et alI doesn't seem too complete. I wondered about that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted May 6, 2016 Share Never knew Owen Hannie was a doper. http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/nov03/nov06news South African banned for steroid use:South African cyclist Owen Hannie of the Microsoft team has been banned for six months following a positive test for the anabolic steroid, stanozolol.Hannie underwent a voluntary test on September 27 before the Africa games. He claims the positive test resulted from him taking a product called Winstral in late February/early March after doctors refused to operate on a broken collarbone he sustained in Malaysia. "It was given to me by an old school friend who told me it would help me to recover from the break," he said. Edited May 6, 2016 by Patchelicious BDF and Rick Sanchez 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted May 6, 2016 Share Yolande De VilliersAustin Steyn (Vet. 2014 Amashova for Phentermine)Joe Van Der Westhuizen (Vet 4 Oct 2014 Engen Cycle in the City Race)Chad Short (2 May 2014 SA Track Champs for Methylhexaneamine)Hendrik Anderson (Vet 25 Oct 2013 Cape Pioneer Trek)Pieter Lategan (2 Nov 2013 OFM MTB Classic) All as per CSA Press releases http://www.cyclingsa.com/anti-doping-press/?offset=1397474040000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted May 6, 2016 Share Yolande De VilliersAustin Steyn (Vet. 2014 Amashova for Phentermine)Joe Van Der Westhuizen (Vet 4 Oct 2014 Engen Cycle in the City Race)Chad Short (2 May 2014 SA Track Champs for Methylhexaneamine)Hendrik Anderson (Vet 25 Oct 2013 Cape Pioneer Trek)Pieter Lategan (2 Nov 2013 OFM MTB Classic) All as per CSA Press releases http://www.cyclingsa.com/anti-doping-press/?offset=1397474040000I wish they would test more vets, honestly. fandacious and Gen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted May 6, 2016 Share Yolande De VilliersAustin Steyn (Vet. 2014 Amashova for Phentermine)Joe Van Der Westhuizen (Vet 4 Oct 2014 Engen Cycle in the City Race)Chad Short (2 May 2014 SA Track Champs for Methylhexaneamine)Hendrik Anderson (Vet 25 Oct 2013 Cape Pioneer Trek)Pieter Lategan (2 Nov 2013 OFM MTB Classic) All as per CSA Press releases http://www.cyclingsa.com/anti-doping-press/?offset=1397474040000 thanks loaded them all BDF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted May 6, 2016 Share I wish they would test more vets, honestly.Should be random testing at every CSA sanctioned event. At least samples from all licenced groups. Danger Dassie, Patchelicious and fandacious 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted May 6, 2016 Share Should be random testing at every CSA sanctioned event. At least samples from all licenced groups. Setup a fund to assist SAIDS and maybe volunteer. Two of the biggest issues facing SAIDS. BDF and fandacious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted May 6, 2016 Share I must confess that while I am all for exposing the dopers, I also feel that sponsors and race organisers have the life of the sport from a competitive perspective in their hands. I would do as much as possible to keep them on board. I don't think that a boycott of the races they organise and sponsor would help the sport necessarily.It would be great if the dopers would be more humble, admit that they cheated instead of make up all manner of excuses, accept their ban/sanction and do something among the cycling community to discourage and expose doping. Mousea, Danger Dassie and Patchelicious 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted May 6, 2016 Share If you dont care about the sport, then this outlook is fine. That's fine, disagree but provide a mature reply and reasoning rather than a patently stupid remark about my character. Just because we don't see eye to eye does not mean I or others don't care. If nothing else your comment validated the point in my post. leeubok and Mousea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenGraham Posted May 6, 2016 Share I read "droppers suck" and was fully ready to get involved and reign down fire on the person who started the thread. Not really interested in discussing doping so I'll move right along. Mousea and fandacious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted May 6, 2016 Share got those - but that list doesnt seem very complete? where is DG, evans, et al That list doesn't seem to have any of the codes updated since 2012 sadly. Would imagine it's a mammoth task admin wise, hopefully they intended to update that database.It's a great resource with a good knowledge base and goes a long way into providing transparency, IF kept up to date. Another really good resource is the app for checking medicine against the WADA list, that as far as I know is up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted May 6, 2016 Share It would be great if the dopers would be more humble, admit that they cheated instead of make up all manner of excuses, accept their ban/sanction and do something among the cycling community to discourage and expose doping. It would be great if the rand went back down to R2/$1 as well. Back here in reality, things are a little difference Also, the epic has no problem banning cheats. Why should any other race feel uncomfortable doing it Edited May 6, 2016 by fandacious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbarn Killer Posted May 6, 2016 Share For how long should a person be punished? These guys were caught, they have been punished, they have served their sentence. You cannot keep on ostracising them for past mistakes. Take Owen Hannie as an example. He was bust in 2000. That is 16 years ago. Now people are opening up old wounds. He has done more for cycling since then than most Hubbers put together. Those of you that are intent on boycotting events that allow "rehabilitated dopers" to compete, put your money where your mouth is and cancel your Supersport subscription. If you are prepared to boycott events that allow ex-dopers, then boycott Supersport for employing ex-dopers. henningvr, leeubok, BDF and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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