Steven Holmes Posted June 2, 2016 Share Wow!!! Thanks for sharing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCH Posted June 2, 2016 Share Jeez louise...... If those are the actual minutes, then good luck to anyone telling me that wasnt a price fixing meeting.Reputable shops, not discount stores..... Nice one.... Probably why CRC struggles with their dreadful reputation..... Its not price fixing.... Says Mr Pienaar with his in depth legal knowledge Its pretty clearly stated, you dare undercut or go outside the agreed pricing structure; your joint will feel no love from the wholesalers. Who was the bright spark who thought taking minutes was a good idea? raptor-22 and Capricorn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted June 2, 2016 Share Thing is they achieved their goal...margins lifted regardless of guilt or not. Ons k@k en betaal Margins are much lower now than the margins they proposed lifting at the meeting. Onliners are waaay below the margins proposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-Zulu Posted June 2, 2016 Share Margins are much lower now than the margins they proposed lifting at the meeting. Onliners are waaay below the margins proposed.Due to which factors? Increased competition or just pure economics and trying to survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCH Posted June 2, 2016 Share because onliners were never part of the circle of trust! just a bunch of annoying discounters without a reputable reputation. and yes the world now fits onto your smart phoneDue to which factors? Increased competition or just pure economics and trying to survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-Zulu Posted June 2, 2016 Share because onliners were never part of the circle of trust! just a bunch of annoying discounters without a reputable reputation. and yes the world now fits onto your smart phoneSo the answer lies in being a bike shop with an online catologue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptor-22 Posted June 2, 2016 Share see there's the CSA okey blabbering in there as well. Funny little world neh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloukrans Posted June 2, 2016 Share Eish Why must these "inaccurate notes" also refer to my favourite store (Cajees) I'm sure Sypercyling will run a full expose...not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCH Posted June 2, 2016 Share no idea, assume if you ask CWC then yes; cant honestly see how anyone is operating and GROWING their business without a online presence these days, it doesn't have to be a retail arm per se; but at least list what you stock and prices. Sure there are the exceptions who get along nicely without it, until they aren't. Spoke to a onliner recently and asked why they don't stock Shimano, and they told me; they aren't supplied with stock (not sure if its the full story, could be non payment or whatever) now if that is a decision that Shimano / coolheat has made to only supply physical brick and mortar shops and not to supply online retailers.... that would boggle my mind, again not sure if its the case or not. But no surprises with grey imports and CRC growing hand over fist. But when I walk into a bikeshop and two or three people are just idling around, and the mechanic is the only one busy, then I dont buy the song of, "then we need to appoint people to check on orders, pack and ship etc"... no, you just need to get your existing people to be more effective. But thats not something you say to any company in SA. So the answer lies in being a bike shop with an online catologue. Ed-Zulu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptor-22 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Due to which factors? Increased competition or just pure economics and trying to survive? Margins are actually in line with where they have been. SOme brands insist on a retailer to mark up no less than 35% on bikes but not more than 50%. The guy on 35% won't discount unless you buy kit, bike computer etc from thm as well. The 50% guys will discount the price by 10-15%.But some distributors still send their reps around to check on retailers prices to ensure they're not over discounting because other retailer moan if they do. So I got my two bikes shops who I use because 1 went and didn;t agree with the suggestions and left.The other didn't bother to even go to the meetings. Said outright it was wrong and got victimised for it. The cycle ttrade in SA has been a cartel for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloukrans Posted June 2, 2016 Share Pretty damning evidence if I ever saw any. One of our legal council just walked past my desk and ask if I knew about this! He reckons a clearer case of cartel behavior he's never seen. And to run salt into the wound they reckon what they did wasn't illegal. Lol Legal counsel City council #just saying Capricorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadre Posted June 2, 2016 Share Sick to the Stomach. Not sure if I ever want to watch another Supercycling episode. Hopefully Multichoice make some educated decisions. Morwa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Whisperer Posted June 2, 2016 Share The internet is a wonderful place, abundant with bike parts. The distributors have milked this industry for some time, but there are alternatives. There are even some good local online retailers who still manage to keep pricing comparable to global prices. I'll support them, otherwise importing is the only option. The trick is to do your homework to be informed about what these things really cost. There is no duty on bicycle parts (cycling clothes... yes), just VAT and a clearance fee, so normally this adds roughly 20% to the initially listed price, if shipping is free (which normally it is for moderate orders of around R1500... that buys very little). The exchange rate sucks, but this quickly also hits locally distributed stuff too, so pretty much balances out. Shop around... unless you need it NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdevil Posted June 2, 2016 Share Reading this makes me keen to open an online store that sells grey/gray imports at cost. Cadre, Hilton. and Morwa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptor-22 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Legal counsel City council #just saying Thanks I've passed the message onto Apple to update their spell checker Bloukrans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose! Posted June 2, 2016 Share Edited June 2, 2016 by Mongoose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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