daniemare Posted November 8, 2016 Share Hi guys and girls I am aiming for a sub 3:30 CTCT and one thing was to get into a better seeding group. I am satisfied that my current PPA seeding of G is good enough for this. My seeding is based on the Durbie Dash 2016, plus I have a sub 3 hours 96km Bonnievale still to be taken into account. I am also aiming to do 947 in under 3 hours. So with my prior year CTCT of 3:40 I think I will be in good stead. My question is, if I do the Stellenbosch cycle tour much slower will this affect my seeding for the CTCT. I want to help my wife a bit as she never has the luxury of group riding where she starts (S/T groups). An improvement in her seeding will also help her in the CTCT, especially for starting earlier. So I want to do a TT for her benefit. Also we have to ride a big race together at some point. Thanks for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted November 8, 2016 Share I found the last couple of years that my PPA seeding and CTCT seeding corresponded. Maybe it was just my luck that it happened that way, but it does seem that it correlates somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniemare Posted November 8, 2016 Share Thanks wannabe. Yes there is a correlation, that is why I am fine with my seeding. My question is will a slow Stellenbosch Cycle Tour affect my seeding, or will they ignore it and stick with the better times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANSTEP Posted November 8, 2016 Share Hi guys and girls I am aiming for a sub 3:30 CTCT and one thing was to get into a better seeding group. I am satisfied that my current PPA seeding of G is good enough for this. My seeding is based on the Durbie Dash 2016, plus I have a sub 3 hours 96km Bonnievale still to be taken into account. I am also aiming to do 947 in under 3 hours. So with my prior year CTCT of 3:40 I think I will be in good stead. My question is, if I do the Stellenbosch cycle tour much slower will this affect my seeding for the CTCT. I want to help my wife a bit as she never has the luxury of group riding where she starts (S/T groups). An improvement in her seeding will also help her in the CTCT, especially for starting earlier. So I want to do a TT for her benefit. Also we have to ride a big race together at some point. Thanks for the helpRaces never have a negative effect on seeding. No matter how badly you do. Your best ones count, have priority. There is no logical reason to skip a race because of "your seeding". And if you only have one race, one is better than none. The PPA web site has the in depth version, but in short, just race & no need to stress about how slow you went. Capricorn, andydude, daniemare and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted November 8, 2016 Share They normally stick with the better / faster times. I have not done a proper "seeding race" in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted November 8, 2016 Share Just smash the 99er in Feb, easy race and no penalty for old result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted November 8, 2016 Share This Races never have a negative effect on seeding. No matter how badly you do. Your best ones count, have priority. There is no logical reason to skip a race because of "your seeding". And if you only have one race, one is better than none. The PPA web site has the in depth version, but in short, just race & no need to stress about how slow you went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madone69 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Hi guys and girls I am aiming for a sub 3:30 CTCT and one thing was to get into a better seeding group. I am satisfied that my current PPA seeding of G is good enough for this. My seeding is based on the Durbie Dash 2016, plus I have a sub 3 hours 96km Bonnievale still to be taken into account. I am also aiming to do 947 in under 3 hours. So with my prior year CTCT of 3:40 I think I will be in good stead. My question is, if I do the Stellenbosch cycle tour much slower will this affect my seeding for the CTCT. I want to help my wife a bit as she never has the luxury of group riding where she starts (S/T groups). An improvement in her seeding will also help her in the CTCT, especially for starting earlier. So I want to do a TT for her benefit. Also we have to ride a big race together at some point. Thanks for the helpmy advice and from my experience, forget about your own seeding and CTCT race. ride the CTCT and any other events with your wife and assist her.believe me you will enjoy this and the memories will last forever. Edited November 8, 2016 by Madone69 Bat and DJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniemare Posted November 8, 2016 Share Thanks everyone. My wife will appreciate it Now to find some other T & U seeders that will do the Stellenbosch Cycle Tour that would like to average 25 - 26 and ride in a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted November 8, 2016 Share No, doing a slow one will not negatively affect your seeding, because only your best races will be used in calculating it. Having said that, I know someone who simply removes his chip during the race as he would rather have no result than for a slow time to forever be on his record. (He has other issues as well, being unable to smell the roses for instance.) Edited November 8, 2016 by DJR Mongoose!, 'Kaze Pete and BouncingBrain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypot Posted November 8, 2016 Share Thanks everyone. My wife will appreciate it Now to find some other T & U seeders that will do the Stellenbosch Cycle Tour that would like to average 25 - 26 and ride in a bunch. I started this race in Q one year and still managed 31 average. There are always people in every group who will have the ability to go faster than the rest of the bunch. Find them and go! Oufy MTB (Roadie) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted November 8, 2016 Share my advice and from my experience, forget about your own seeding and CTCT race. ride the CTCT and any other events with your wife and assist her.believe me you will enjoy this and the memories will last forever. That is what the second lap is for... Pure Savage and Karman de Lange 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madone69 Posted November 8, 2016 Share That is what the second lap is for...not if you starting anywhere lower than D maybe E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted November 8, 2016 Share not if you starting anywhere lower than D maybe E Referring to your earlier post - Working towards a time goal, training hard over months, doing seeding races and then pushing yourself hard on the day can be rewarding in it's own way. Part of CTCT's awesomeness is that you have many different people doing it have many different goals, don't think we should dictate to others how they should approach the race (other than not making a nuisance of themselves to those around you) Jase619 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madone69 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Referring to your earlier post - Working towards a time goal, training hard over months, doing seeding races and then pushing yourself hard on the day can be rewarding in it's own way. Part of CTCT's awesomeness is that you have many different people doing it have many different goals, don't think we should dictate to others how they should approach the race (other than not making a nuisance of themselves to those around you)shooo. chill dude ... if you read the post correctly ... it starts off by "my advice"...no mention of dictating. ..enjoy your ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleyne Posted November 8, 2016 Share Do the PPA Hill Climbs to improve your seeding, there is one this Saturday on Chappies I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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