Pure Savage Posted March 12, 2018 Share Same thing I told myself at the time. I'll enjoy the views with my family from next year Yeah, its a pretty freak accident though. 4 years ago I watch someone clip a con near the bottom of Hospital bend doing close to 70km/h he lost a bit of skin but was fine. Its probably safer doing the argus than it is driving to work. DJR and Cycling Addict 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted March 12, 2018 Share Anyone have an update of the guys that crashed in Smits 1D group, really hope you guys are ok. Crazy fast decent.... i know one of the dude's that went down, was in hospital but was released with bad roasties but he'll live to tell the tale Stoffies1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velouria Posted March 12, 2018 Share Anyone have an update of the guys that crashed in Smits 1D group, really hope you guys are ok. Crazy fast decent.... Apart from that incident, 1D seemed like quite a good bunch. Okes were chilled, no shouting or swearing, and I felt rather safe. I was a little annoyed at having to go around the crash (it's amazing how the "not my problem" gene kicks in when riding bikes and chasing other riders), but it did look pretty bad. The guys were in pieces. The medics running towards the accident from the water point 2kms seemed a bit inappropriate. A car, and preferably an ambulance would have been better suited. On a side note - 1D was two minutes faster than 1A to the 51km mark. But we sucked on the climbs, so 1A made up 6 minutes on us over the second half of the race. (It's a sad day when I'm the one of the better climbers in the bunch). Me waiting for the bunch to catch me after Smits (just before the Oceanview turn)... Edited March 12, 2018 by Velouria DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velouria Posted March 12, 2018 Share How do you leave someone in front? The way that a working echelon / paceline operates is for the front rider to peal off, NEVER for anyone to come from the back to relieve him. Sorry to pick on you, but lack of understanding on this minute but critical fact is why we so often struggle to get things organised in bigger bunches. Riders sitting in front for kilometers on end and complaining that nobody wants to work. If the front rider peals off then the rest can roll through and do some work.Ask the okes in 1D - they seemed quite adept at leaving me on the front while pretending to not be there. It's amazing how skinny and quiet some guys can be when trying to hide on your back wheel. It's much easier to just settle in and ride a tempo than hopelessly flap an arm and trust that someone will come through. After all - everyone is saving themselves for the "sprint" for 700th place! DJR, -Az-, Vetplant and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted March 12, 2018 Share For example, one guy with Nedbank "Development Trust" kit on did not know what half wheeling overlapping wheels was. He was following wheels like Peter Sagan without a lead out train. When I tried to explain the dangers thereof to him, 3 other people in that bunch also commented that they had know idea of what half wheeling overlapping, keep the line etc meant. I asked them about hand signals for road dangers etc, and they had no idea. And then the cherry, they never really ride in big bunches like this. WELL DONE !! We need more of this! Everyone wants safer bunches, but no one wants to help make bunches safer. Because of you the "development trust kit" rider and 3 others now know how to ride safer. You dont need to be a box and shout at people (like some bunches do), you just need to guide the newbies. And trust me, we all need it. Once again. WELL DONE ! DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted March 12, 2018 Share ........Me waiting for the bunch to catch me after Smits (just before the Oceanview turn)...Did you go round 4 times? Just kidding. I know this was just a Little Day Out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev null Posted March 12, 2018 Share You have to assume that only 1/10 riders know how To ride in a group. The local road rides only get around 1000/3000 riders per event. So the other 28000 don’t ride in groups often, so watch out [emoji12] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks to Pure Savage my son was able to do a lot more road races late last year, and as a result his bunch riding improved tremendously. He is not as scared of bunch riding anymore as he used to be. DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt174 Posted March 12, 2018 Share You liar Rode from 7C on my second lap and there were at least 3 road bikes there. I was probably one of them Bonus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted March 12, 2018 Share Really sad to hear bout the 3 deaths. Having been the victim of a numpty hitting a cat eye about 5 years ago coming into Misty Cliffs at speed and having to wait for over 5 hours to find a sweep vehicle which never arrived and then having to push my broken bike with fairly severe blood loss to the Soetwater water point where there was a proper medical tent, I really don't miss the riskiness of the race. But I am really jealous of the weather... I never made my 3hrs before I left ???? DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velouria Posted March 12, 2018 Share Did you go round 4 times? Just kidding. I know this was just a Little Day Out! Not an unreasonable question at all. Let's just say that we have tried to figure out a scheme to do it 3 times... [emoji6] DJR and dirtypot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky DQ Posted March 12, 2018 Share How do you leave someone in front? The way that a working echelon / paceline operates is for the front rider to peal off, NEVER for anyone to come from the back to relieve him. Sorry to pick on you, but lack of understanding on this minute but critical fact is why we so often struggle to get things organised in bigger bunches. Riders sitting in front for kilometers on end and complaining that nobody wants to work. If the front rider peals off then the rest can roll through and do some work.Yho, you don't race much do you? how do you leave someone on the front. Easy.Step one, let him get to the frontStep two, leave him thereStep three, if he starts to move over follow himStep four, if he slows slow with himStep five, he will speed up as he needs to keep some for of pace. Rinse repeat,When he has had enough you jump past and drop him. Easy, that is the way you teach dingbats a lesson. dirtypot, Wannabe, Hilton. and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted March 12, 2018 Share ...just heard the guy who went into the marshal is a good friend of mine, i'm hoping its not, he apparently has a broken jaw, but that would be just small of what he has to endure for the rest of his life knowing someone has lost their life! i've tried to contact to him, to no avail, sent my well wishes and hoping to meet him soon :(Please share when you have some facts. that volunteer's life has to mean something other than being the afterthought posting as a newsbrief. DJR, Wannabe and Bonus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas_187 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Please share when you have some facts. that volunteer's life has to mean something other than being the afterthought posting as a newsbrief.I doubt it is an afterthought, it may be because there is some sort of police investigation as the report suggests DJR, Vetplant and Wet Ears 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted March 12, 2018 Share I doubt it is an afterthought, it may be because there is some sort of police investigation as the report suggestsProbably true. Everybody's lawyers jumped in and said to say as little as possible because it is part of an enquiry, thus don't want to say something you might regret in future. Condolences to the entire cycling family. This news is hard to hear even when we don't personally know any of the people involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoKnight Posted March 12, 2018 Share I doubt it is an afterthought, it may be because there is some sort of police investigation as the report suggests I don't think it was meant maliciously, think it comes from he point that till about 10 this morning the fact of the volunteer's condition was acknowledge after all the reporting having been limited two the two riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Brink Posted March 12, 2018 Share Not an unreasonable question at all. Let's just say that we have tried to figure out a scheme to do it 3 times... [emoji6]Oh very dear. Velouria, dirtypot and Slowbee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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