Andrew Steer Posted December 13, 2017 Share You not understanding it.. He lost 42 seconds the day before... The day in question he gained a lot of time on his close rivals...all this while he was suffering from bad asthma .. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Exactly... Chris Froome took advantage of growing fatigue among his main rivals as the Team Sky rider moved to a step closer to securing a Tour de France and Vuelta a Españadouble. The day after he lost 42 seconds to Vincenzo Nibali, a devastating late break on the road to Santo Toribio de Liébana saw Froome extend his lead over the Italian to 1min 37sec Edited December 13, 2017 by Andrew Steer Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkie 2 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Should be easy for Sky to wipe this away if he has been using it as long as he says he has, it will then be present in all his previous urine tests and they can just say oops he sucked on it to long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted December 13, 2017 Share Who's saying he wasn't...? These guys aren't tested every single day, they're also not necessarily tested inside the window when they would test positive. I've supported Froome and defended people just saying they are doping because they are winning, but the house of cards from where I am standing is getting pretty wobbly. They're a "Landis" away from being Postal II You'd really think they would be a little smarter on all this Salbutamol abuse looks a lot like another one of their 'marginal gains' Where does it end?People seem to think you can only gain time on big mtn stages..in fact stage 18 was the perfect chance to take time back after a very tough day before. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk 'Dale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velouria Posted December 13, 2017 Share I won't lie this thought did cross my mind Check out @DominantDomest1’s Tweet: Friday on a Wednesday.. this will drag out for a long time. But if this is true and they were banned for their amounts then it's a no brainer that he should be banned. Sent from my SM-G950F using TapatalkAnd Contador served a ban for clenbuterol (very similar to salbutamol - also a bronchodilator) when his levels were 40 times LESS than the detectable threshold for a lab to be WADA accredited. Rudi Pollard, Meezo, Gen and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 13, 2017 Share You not understanding it.. He lost 42 seconds the day before... The day in question he gained a lot of time on his close rivals...all this while he was suffering from bad asthma .. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk That is a good point. I figured that if you're going to risk a marketing disaster for some time then a big mountain stage where you gain 3 or 4 minutes on a mountain top finish would look less suspicious than smashing an intermediate. Your point does add to the "he's guilty" evidence box. Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted December 13, 2017 Share Eh? Stage 18 The momentum is once again with Chris Froome(Team Sky) at the Vuelta a España after he distanced Vincenzo Nibali (Bahrain-Merida) on the short final climb to Alto de Santo Toribio de Liébana on stage 18 to extend his lead atop the overall standings to 1:37. Chris Froome took advantage of growing fatigue among his main rivals as the Team Sky rider moved to a step closer to securing a Tour de France and Vuelta a Españadouble. The day after he lost 42 seconds to Vincenzo Nibali, a devastating late break on the road to Santo Toribio de Liébana saw Froome extend his lead over the Italian to 1min 37sec while Sander Armée took the stage 18 victory.Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk http://www.lolwot.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/10-extraordinary-facts-you-never-knew-about-kung-fu-panda-7.jpg Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted December 13, 2017 Share *ACUTE ASTHMA* but still manages to ride a bike? pull the other one intern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Steer Posted December 13, 2017 Share *ACUTE ASTHMA* but still manages to ride a bike? pull the other one(Emma Sadlier liked this) fandacious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted December 13, 2017 Share https://www.teamsky.com/article/ts-statement Pah Bear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted December 13, 2017 Share https://www.teamsky.com/article/ts-statement???????????? Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Edited December 13, 2017 by Gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 13, 2017 Share Who's saying he wasn't...? These guys aren't tested every single day, they're also not necessarily tested inside the window when they would test positive. I've supported Froome and defended people just saying they are doping because they are winning, but the house of cards from where I am standing is getting pretty wobbly. They're a "Landis" away from being Postal II You'd really think they would be a little smarter on all this Salbutamol abuse looks a lot like another one of their 'marginal gains' Where does it end? We don't know how much he was tested but I'm guessing he wasn't tested only once for salbutamol. I can't find the WADA vuelta testing protocol for the vuelta but if memory serves the top 3 stage winners are tested every day and jersey holders are tested reguarly which mean he would have been tested quite a few times. Does anyone have the vuelta testing protocol handy? How is the house of cards wobbly? The most serious thing where there has been some smoke is abuse of legal drugs and TUE systems. Bardiani, BMC, Trek Seafredo etc have had ACTUAL positives - surely they're ahead of SKY on the house of cards theory? All of this said - I'm not actually a SKYfroome fan - I think they've done a similar thing to US Postal in cycling - made Grand Tours boring by using a huge budget to buy up potential GT winners and crush other teams. Edit: From the SKY statement: During the final week of the Vuelta, Chris experienced acute asthma symptoms. On the advice of the Team Sky doctor, he used an increased dosage of Salbutamol (still within the permissible doses) in the run-up to the 7 September urine test. As race leader, Chris was tested after every stage through this period and he declared his use of the medication as part of the process.Read more at https://www.teamsky.com/article/ts-statement#43CrKle4fxuOaGwC.99 Edited December 13, 2017 by Eldron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted December 13, 2017 Share *ACUTE ASTHMA* but still manages to ride a bike? pull the other one btw, the team sky report says chronic asthma, but the excuse in the press is acute asthma. which one is it? intern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 13, 2017 Share *ACUTE ASTHMA* but still manages to ride a bike? pull the other one Oddly enough - we were discussing it this morning (BBC news was going crazy about the froome test) and my geneticist fiance reckons exercise induced asthma/bronchoconstriction is fairly common among endurance athletes. A huge study into pro footballers is about to start because of the potential health issues with pro footballing and EIA/B. Rocket-Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted December 13, 2017 Share https://www.teamsky.com/article/ts-statement“There are complex medical and physiological issues which affect the metabolism and excretion of Salbutamol. So Froome has this amazing ability to piss this stuff??? Larry King, Cav', EmptyB and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted December 13, 2017 Share Oddly enough - we were discussing it this morning (BBC news was going crazy about the froome test) and my geneticist fiance reckons exercise induced asthma/bronchoconstriction is fairly common among endurance athletes. A huge study into pro footballers is about to start because of the potential health issues with pro footballing and EIA/B.I have also heard that endurance athletes often suffer from those conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted December 13, 2017 Share Has Michelle gone loco on Twitter yet? Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk RossW and Eldron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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