Acerunner Posted March 4, 2018 Share What rumour is that? The one about the top okes resigning and Fritz Pienaar of Advendurance taking ASG over?Thats not gonna cure their bad rep in SA cycling i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted March 4, 2018 Share What rumour is that? The one about the top okes resigning and Fritz Pienaar of Advendurance taking ASG over?:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted March 4, 2018 Share I have some inside info, that I can't say until confirmed in writing... #interestingWhy say anything at all then... Patchelicious, Hairy, stefmeister and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted March 5, 2018 Share Why say anything at all then...To earn hubcred points of course. It's really important that a bunch of anonymous people think you're cool. Odinson, Hairy, Vetplant and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SADivemaster Posted March 5, 2018 Share I can attest to a number of unanswered SMS’s and undelivered promises. Here is the message- if you can withhold yourself..... do not enter ASG events. Vote with your money. If there is one thing I have gotten out of this discussion, it is that out of principle, I will not be entering anymore ASG events. Let them rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefmeister Posted March 5, 2018 Share ASG and ASG Events is falling a part and has been for some time. They talk themselves up well but cannot walk the talk at all. The issue of unanswered calls and mails is true....factually correct. Take TransCape 2018.... one month after the race the prize money is still not paid. How is this even possible? The pre- race hype suggested they were in the A League with likes of Epic () and Pioneer and J2C!!!!! Having just done TC ... I can say with no hesitation; they are nowhere near to the others. But that is not the point. Poor planning, poor communication, poor most everything delivered a below par event. In my first hand and opinion there are three problems: - The event organizer ( Daryl or Daryn or Dan....? ) couldn’t organize a piss up in a brewery....and has the conflict resolution skills of a porcupine quill. - The so called event Co-ordinator ( Ilse ???) couldn’t co-ordinate a stamp collection.... - And a fish always rots at the head. The prize giving was a monumental cock- up with the trophies and prize money going to the UCI teams instead of the Individual and Team winners!!! Go figure. The real winners os of the race walked away empty handed. Nowhere in the pre- race communications or in the race bible was there any mention of a Vets or Masters categories. Imagine our surprise when at prize giving the Overall Team and Individual winners were given a Rudy Project back pack instead of an envelope with a Cheque in it. In any normal corporate business with a customer service ethic; the only way to best rectify the egregious error would have been to pay the prize money the Monday .... 1st thing. That way the unhappiness and frustration would be ameliorated but this was lost on the people involved whose egos are bigger than the industry itself..... but the very people they purport to serve..... us the the dumb rider who spends their good money on these events.... got suckered. I don’t know whether they are clever and the rider is plain stupid for falling into their honey trap. The truth be told, they have charged more and have added little to no value to the races. I know because I have race them all. All the stage races in SA are expensive... all of them, but the back end works and works well. Allow me to share one last point - in past years Epic entries it’s were like Oakley’s.... unobtainable . This year there must have been 8 - 10 entries available on The Hub! The point? Sign of the times. Event numbers will stabilize and the start to decline.... normal economics but for Organisers such as ASG , the end is just going to come faster. Imagine if the entry entry money was still not paid a month after the race ended... what a wobble they would be having. I can attest to a number of unanswered SMS’s and undelivered promises. Here is the message- if you can withhold yourself..... do not enter ASG events. Vote with your money.Judging by their branded vehicles it can't go too badly with them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALUS Posted March 5, 2018 Share I can proudly say that I have not entered any ASG events after the time they screwed us over with timing at Sondela and then made the cyclists out as whingers. When their races comes up I pay my R40 and go cycle Suikerbosrand. No stupid registration nightmares and peace in my heart. They don't want me and I don't need them. Vetplant and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Phil Posted March 5, 2018 Share According to racetec, YoY downward trend of recent berge and dale 2016 - 15552017 - 13212018 - 1134 Roughly losing 200 entrants per year or c15% p.a. Assuming a R400 entrance fee that is R 80 000 income lost each year while probably incurring similar annual costs. Probably explains why entrance fees are and have been increasing without a commensurate increase in quality and/or service. I am no race organiser but I am pretty sure that the numbers above make for an unsustainable situation. Li Mu Bai, Tristand and Popit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted March 5, 2018 Share Remember when they used to spam the hub with their posts.. They were a paid advertiser.. But still rubbed me the wrong way.. Looks like I wasn't the only one Skylark and Hairy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted March 6, 2018 Share According to racetec, YoY downward trend of recent berge and dale 2016 - 15552017 - 13212018 - 1134 Roughly losing 200 entrants per year or c15% p.a. Assuming a R400 entrance fee that is R 80 000 income lost each year while probably incurring similar annual costs. Probably explains why entrance fees are and have been increasing without a commensurate increase in quality and/or service. I am no race organiser but I am pretty sure that the numbers above make for an unsustainable situation.I believe that is the general trend on most established events due to the number of new events starting.With the exception of Epics and Argus's Many events are closing their doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s14phoenix Posted March 6, 2018 Share I don't support their events and don't support their brands. Not to be funny and I know goodie bags are stupid anyway but the ones at ASG events (or lack of them) reeks of their stingy overprice culture. But have you seen their marketing tent???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeepee Posted March 6, 2018 Share ASG and ASG Events is falling a part and has been for some time. They talk themselves up well but cannot walk the talk at all. The issue of unanswered calls and mails is true....factually correct. Take TransCape 2018.... one month after the race the prize money is still not paid. How is this even possible? The pre- race hype suggested they were in the A League with likes of Epic () and Pioneer and J2C!!!!! Having just done TC ... I can say with no hesitation; they are nowhere near to the others. But that is not the point. Poor planning, poor communication, poor most everything delivered a below par event. In my first hand and opinion there are three problems: - The event organizer ( Daryl or Daryn or Dan....? ) couldn’t organize a piss up in a brewery....and has the conflict resolution skills of a porcupine quill. - The so called event Co-ordinator ( Ilse ???) couldn’t co-ordinate a stamp collection.... - And a fish always rots at the head. The prize giving was a monumental cock- up with the trophies and prize money going to the UCI teams instead of the Individual and Team winners!!! Go figure. The real winners os of the race walked away empty handed. Nowhere in the pre- race communications or in the race bible was there any mention of a Vets or Masters categories. Imagine our surprise when at prize giving the Overall Team and Individual winners were given a Rudy Project back pack instead of an envelope with a Cheque in it. In any normal corporate business with a customer service ethic; the only way to best rectify the egregious error would have been to pay the prize money the Monday .... 1st thing. That way the unhappiness and frustration would be ameliorated but this was lost on the people involved whose egos are bigger than the industry itself..... but the very people they purport to serve..... us the the dumb rider who spends their good money on these events.... got suckered. I don’t know whether they are clever and the rider is plain stupid for falling into their honey trap. The truth be told, they have charged more and have added little to no value to the races. I know because I have race them all. All the stage races in SA are expensive... all of them, but the back end works and works well. Allow me to share one last point - in past years Epic entries it’s were like Oakley’s.... unobtainable . This year there must have been 8 - 10 entries available on The Hub! The point? Sign of the times. Event numbers will stabilize and the start to decline.... normal economics but for Organisers such as ASG , the end is just going to come faster. Imagine if the entry entry money was still not paid a month after the race ended... what a wobble they would be having. I can attest to a number of unanswered SMS’s and undelivered promises. Here is the message- if you can withhold yourself..... do not enter ASG events. Vote with your money.Thanks, great post. Not just a rant but you back your complaint up with some facts. I like to support people that care about their customers and clients. Their events has become very pricy for what you get, with the above in mind I'll be avoiding their events in the future. 2wieltjies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJDT Posted March 6, 2018 Share What happened to their online shop, last year there was a huge buzz also on cycling parts etc.? There was also some debates on their pricing. See they are back to square one only offering shoes, clothes and nutrition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Remember when they used to spam the hub with their posts.. They were a paid advertiser.. But still rubbed me the wrong way.. Looks like I wasn't the only oneyou mean you no longer want to know what celebs are wearing what Rudy Projects sunglasses ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted March 6, 2018 Share What happened to their online shop, last year there was a huge buzz also on cycling parts etc.? There was also some debates on their pricing. See they are back to square one only offering shoes, clothes and nutrition.Nope...all still thereIn fact I am about to purchase another pair of specsMy existing pair are relegated to wearing on project sites due to is photochromic properties and ease and comfort of fit.The Rydons still take some beating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted March 6, 2018 Share Maybe if you pay R410 into their account they will respond to your mail/phone call. Odinson, Edition 507 and Lurch the stalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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