Skubarra Posted May 14, 2018 Share Well, isn't that what our country need in order to stop being nowhere in the Cape Epic or UCI XCO races....dedicated riders with natural potential? The obvious solution to that would be to also ban foreigners and homeschoolers from the Cape Epic and UCI XCO's to protect people that went to normal schools from competitors with the potential to beat them. Skylark and mazambaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted May 14, 2018 Share Well, isn't that what our country need in order to stop being nowhere in the Cape Epic or UCI XCO races....dedicated riders with natural potential?In short, no. This is just conflating totally irrelevant hypotheticals. PygaSchmyga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PygaSchmyga Posted May 14, 2018 Share The obvious solution to that would be to also ban foreigners and homeschoolers from the Cape Epic and UCI XCO's to protect people that went to normal schools from competitors with the potential to beat them.definitely! Isn't it cultural appropriation if anyone other than Khoisan people ride the Epic? Edited May 14, 2018 by PygaSchmyga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naas Vermaak Posted May 14, 2018 Share In short, no. This is just conflating totally irrelevant hypotheticals.ek is afrikaans broer....wat de moer het jy nou gesê... :) mitsu, 2 X 2, PygaSchmyga and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PygaSchmyga Posted May 14, 2018 Share ek is afrikaans broer....wat de moer het jy nou gesê... :)hy se jy praat k@k! Lexx, mitsu and Naas Vermaak 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s14phoenix Posted May 14, 2018 Share 2c...This is whole issue is blown way out but like always this forum likes a good schoolyard fight. I think the series should be a kids series for a particular age group - not "school" kids. Maybe the whole school thing should be dropped from the name and the series. True that there are schools hosting the events etc. which is great but this should not dictate the exclusion of any kids. Hats off to Spur putting their name on something so good for this sport as there is not much support out there lets be honest. Everyone should be allowed to compete no exclusions - we want to cultivate the best of the best and most talented/hardest working - whether schooled, home schooled , school less , homeless... what does that matter? The End. Edited May 14, 2018 by s14phoenix Skylark, Thor Buttox and mazambaan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted May 14, 2018 Share 2c...This is whole issue is blown way out but like always this forum likes a good schoolyard fight. I think the series should be a kids series for a particular age group - not "school" kids. Maybe the whole school thing should be dropped from the name and the series. True that there are schools hosting the events etc. which is great but this should not dictate the exclusion of any kids. Hats off to Spur putting their name on something so good for this sport as there is not much support out there lets be honest. Everyone should be allowed to compete no exclusions - we want to cultivate the best of the best and most talented/hardest working - whether schooled, home schooled , school less , homeless... what does that matter? The End.I said that ages ago, and was told I missed the point (by someone I normally agree with on most things and to be fair there were some relevant issues). But I am beginning to think children should be banned. Would definitely solve this home-schooling thing. Skubarra and PygaSchmyga 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling Stone Posted May 14, 2018 Share If your kid is that competitive, just bring them to the track.Many more medaling opportunities at regional, national and International level.We don't mind home schoolers . I really hope you guys get this sorted. We need kids on bikes.Hijack off. I just cannot help myself. Vetplant, s14phoenix and mitsu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted May 14, 2018 Share 2c...This is whole issue is blown way out but like always this forum likes a good schoolyard fight. I think the series should be a kids series for a particular age group - not "school" kids. Maybe the whole school thing should be dropped from the name and the series. True that there are schools hosting the events etc. which is great but this should not dictate the exclusion of any kids. Hats off to Spur putting their name on something so good for this sport as there is not much support out there lets be honest. Everyone should be allowed to compete no exclusions - we want to cultivate the best of the best and most talented/hardest working - whether schooled, home schooled , school less , homeless... what does that matter? The End.The whole point of this is to get it adopted as a SCHOOL SPORT. Like rugga, cricket etc. That's the entire point of it being a SCHOOL series. Yeah, it's a *** one. A really *** one. Girl wants to compete, but cannot as the numbers in GP restrict entries to schools only. However - this should never have called the legitimacy of homeschooling itself into question. It's an alternate learning track to "normal" schooling. And not in the "alternative medicine" way, either. Skylark, Paddaman, Thor Buttox and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoKnight Posted May 14, 2018 Share So my question, what will cause this thread to reach a conclusion? - By itself?- By Admin? Because all sides (and the middle) seems to have very strong differences in opinion so getting everyone to agree will for sure not happen. Just asking if this thing is going to make it to a second friday. Traveler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted May 14, 2018 Share Skubarra, Pieter1, PygaSchmyga and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted May 14, 2018 Share The whole point of this is to get it adopted as a SCHOOL SPORT. Like rugga, cricket etc. That's the entire point of it being a SCHOOL series. Yeah, it's a *** one. A really *** one. Girl wants to compete, but cannot as the numbers in GP restrict entries to schools only. However - this should never have called the legitimacy of homeschooling itself into question. It's an alternate learning track to "normal" schooling. And not in the "alternative medicine" way, either. You have hit the nail on the head.Home schooling is not a school.I don't see where the principle of homeschooling was called into question tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s14phoenix Posted May 14, 2018 Share The whole point of this is to get it adopted as a SCHOOL SPORT. Like rugga, cricket etc. That's the entire point of it being a SCHOOL series. Yeah, it's a *** one. A really *** one. Girl wants to compete, but cannot as the numbers in GP restrict entries to schools only. However - this should never have called the legitimacy of homeschooling itself into question. It's an alternate learning track to "normal" schooling. And not in the "alternative medicine" way, either. Then why have a different set of rules in different regions??? - that should never have happened and yes it is *** but where this differs from the other school sports is that there are plenty of clubs and club leagues where the kids play soccer, rugby, cricket, tennis etc etc and have a chance to compete in their age group. What should have happened from the start is to let all kids compete but where on the entry form you enter your school name etc there should be a "other" option and if there is a benefit to the school having kids compete then in these cases the funds or whatever just goes to cycling development and in entering you agree and understand. Now that would be a more understandable model and one I think would have had much less objection or opposition. It's ok to get the schools involved but let all the kids in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted May 14, 2018 Share You have hit the nail on the head.Home schooling is not a school.I don't see where the principle of homeschooling was called into question thosome have intimated that it wasn't, but that's a viewpoint for another day. I sure as hell wouldn't want to homeschool my kid! Joh, that's dedication right there. Rather leave that to people who do it all day every day (and who should be paid better than they are) Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted May 14, 2018 Share Then why have a different set of rules in different regions??? - that should never have happened and yes it is *** but where this differs from the other school sports is that there are plenty of clubs and club leagues where the kids play soccer, rugby, cricket, tennis etc etc and have a chance to compete in their age group. What should have happened from the start is to let all kids compete but where on the entry form you enter your school name etc there should be a "other" option and if there is a benefit to the school having kids compete then in these cases the funds or whatever just goes to cycling development and in entering you agree and understand. Now that would be a more understandable model and one I think would have had much less objection or opposition. It's ok to get the schools involved but let all the kids in.There's already an answer for that - numbers. GPO has faaaar more people contending, and Meurant (a dude I trust implicitly) has said that they've just had to make it that way to manage numbers. Or, rather we're looking at it the wrong way. Instead of GP excluding HS'd kids, maybe we should trust Meurant at his word that the other provinces made a concession to allow more numbers in to their series to make it more competitive. Traveler and Thor Buttox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted May 14, 2018 Share some have intimated that it wasn't, but that's a viewpoint for another day. I sure as hell wouldn't want to homeschool my kid! Joh, that's dedication right there. Rather leave that to people who do it all day every day (and who should be paid better than they are)The school provides a lot more than just teachers....Home schooling is a mighty challemgeMy sister is the academic and Cambridge head at a large school in the Cape.The home schooling students have challenges with regards to the practical side of subjects like Science etc.Anyway that is not what this is about. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Andrew Steer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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