daniemare Posted July 17, 2018 Share Hi Hubbers I need advice for my boy's next bike. Size 20" Mountain Bike Requirements": Priority 1 - Rigid Fork (I see no sense in a 2kg+ cheap coil fork that actually has no movement when even my 85kg press down on it.) Priority 2 - Disc Brakes (Mechanical is fine, but if I have to struggle with one more set of V-brakes I will loose it. There is always one side that does not spring back) Priority 3 - Plus sized tires (not fat bike) The Scott attached tick all the boxes, except for a local distributor that does not bring it in. Current OptionsMomsen JSL20 - but has annoying V-brakesTitan Racing Hades - but has heavy non-functioning suspension forkSpecliazed Hotrock - non functioning suspension fork, v-brakes and the typical Spez Premium Price Any other I should look at? Edited July 17, 2018 by daniemare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomsenBikes SA Posted July 17, 2018 Share go BIG - we have the CARBON JSL20 on clearance -- link here -https://momsenbikes.com/shop/buy-juvenile-bikes/mtb-momsen-20-juvenile-jsl20-carbon-2016/ you will not find a better 20" Wheel Hardtail JUNIOR bike in the market! if out of your price bracket - the JSL20 with TEKTRO HIGH QUALITY V-Brakes is better than 99.99% of the cheap mechanical disc brakes on the market and also easier to pull for a youngster. Sportsworld.co.za, openmind, AdamA and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniemare Posted July 17, 2018 Share go BIG - we have the CARBON JSL20 on clearance -- link here -https://momsenbikes.com/shop/buy-juvenile-bikes/mtb-momsen-20-juvenile-jsl20-carbon-2016/ you will not find a better 20" Wheel Hardtail JUNIOR bike in the market! if out of your price bracket - the JSL20 with TEKTRO HIGH QUALITY V-Brakes is better than 99.99% of the cheap mechanical disc brakes on the market and also easier to pull for a youngster.Would have loved to get that Carbon Beast, but it’s a bit much. There is a reason the JSL20 is on my list, I trust your products and love my SL729 (see you have a new one coming). But I have to disagree with you on the V Brakes. One leg never spring back after a month or 2 of use. Even the 2 JSL20 I have seen on floor have that same issue, brand new. His current Frog Bike has “top quality” tektro V brakes and 5 shops cannot get it centrered. Springs are to weak And another benefit of mechanical discs, it can inherent Dad’s hydrolic upgrade MomsenBikes SA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomsenBikes SA Posted July 17, 2018 Share fair enough ... TEKTRO do have a MASSIVE range of brakes .. some cheap, some expensive ... we use the EXPENSIVE stuff on our JSL20 never had any issues on my son's JSL16 - also running same brakes as we specced on the JSL20 over the past few years. AdamA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamS2 Posted July 17, 2018 Share If you grew up in the era of XT parallelogram v-brakes, your kid's bike will always have centered brakes. Lube the cables, lube all the pivot points, learn to set them properly (pads angled slightly) and you'll never have issues. You also won't have to wind the return spring to max, which makes the pull very soft. My 5 year old manages to pull his easily. Edited July 17, 2018 by GrahamS2 MomsenBikes SA, Pure Savage, Mousea and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniemare Posted July 17, 2018 Share If you grew up in the era of XT parallelogram v-brakes, your kid's bike will always have centered brakes. Lube the cables, lube all the pivot points, learn to set them properly (pads angled slightly) and you'll never have issues. You also won't have to wind the return spring to max, which makes the pull very soft. My 5 year old manages to pull his easily.Thanks Graham. Did all of this, and taken to 5 Shops. My take on this is that there is a reason why we do not use them widely anymore. And it is not just better stopping power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomsenBikes SA Posted July 17, 2018 Share If you grew up in the era of XT parallelogram v-brakes, your kid's bike will always have centered brakes. Lube the cables, lube all the pivot points, learn to set them properly (pads angled slightly) and you'll never have issues. You also won't have to wind the return spring to max, which makes the pull very soft. My 5 year old manages to pull his easily. agree 100%. cheap mechanical disc brakes are more for looks than function. GLuvsMtb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oufy MTB (Roadie) Posted July 17, 2018 Share both of my eldest sons have Titan Hades 20 inch, which I got second hand for cheap. the one has V-brakes and the other one disc brakes (cables). They solid bikes and frankly, I don't see the point at this stage over investing into something they will be outgrowing soon. I have 2 Titans 16 inches in the garage that they did not ride long either Mousea and JulienR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigCCW Posted July 17, 2018 Share I am also looking for a 20" Bike for my Son, came across this one: https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/kids-bikes/products/avalanche-chompi-20-kids-2018 Although it looks like a fat bike. Edited July 17, 2018 by CraigCCW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigCCW Posted July 17, 2018 Share I am quite keen on the Silverback Spyke, it is going for a very nice price. https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/kids-bikes/products/silverback-spyke-20-2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted July 17, 2018 Share If you grew up in the era of XT parallelogram v-brakes, your kid's bike will always have centered brakes. Lube the cables, lube all the pivot points, learn to set them properly (pads angled slightly) and you'll never have issues. You also won't have to wind the return spring to max, which makes the pull very soft. My 5 year old manages to pull his easily.THIS! learn how to set V-brakeslearn how to true a wheel not sure which 5 shops you went to, but v-brakes are not a mystery, and at this price point decent v-brakes will beat gawky discs every day of the week. MomsenBikes SA, GrahamS2, johannrissik and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted July 17, 2018 Share go BIG - we have the CARBON JSL20 on clearance -- link here -https://momsenbikes.com/shop/buy-juvenile-bikes/mtb-momsen-20-juvenile-jsl20-carbon-2016/ you will not find a better 20" Wheel Hardtail JUNIOR bike in the market! if out of your price bracket - the JSL20 with TEKTRO HIGH QUALITY V-Brakes is better than 99.99% of the cheap mechanical disc brakes on the market and also easier to pull for a youngster. luckily my kids are still a bit small, but that does look like the ultimate kids bike. or an express launchpad for a lifetime of bikesnobbery! ChrisF and MomsenBikes SA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyroo Posted July 17, 2018 Share The JSL 20 is a great little bike and light as hell. Also battle centering the v brakes every time i fix a puncture on the back wheel. Paid R 4000.00 late 2016 - well worth it! MomsenBikes SA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling Stone Posted July 17, 2018 Share The JSL 20 is a great little bike and light as hell. Also battle centering the v brakes every time i fix a puncture on the back wheel. Paid R 4000.00 late 2016 - well worth it!Best bike everdo not recall ever having issues with V-Brakesa real little race winner MomsenBikes SA and Andyroo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniemare Posted July 17, 2018 Share THIS! learn how to set V-brakeslearn how to true a wheel not sure which 5 shops you went to, but v-brakes are not a mystery, and at this price point decent v-brakes will beat gawky discs every day of the week.Maybe some advice on an actual bike.... I do not want to learn how to set V-brakes over and above normal operations. I can care less to troubleshoot something that just do not spring back. Scour the Internet and I am not the only one that struggles with it - hence why I decided to put it as one of my priorities of what I would like/not like on a bike. But this is not the point of the thread. I was looking for options from others that also did some research to help me out. Thanks for the others with your suggestions. Seems like the JSL20 ticks most of the boxes, and I will just have to learn to live with the brakes Edited July 17, 2018 by daniemare Oufy MTB (Roadie) and MomsenBikes SA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowManiac Posted July 17, 2018 Share Can you get Commencal bikes in SA? My very lucky boy just got a Meta HT 20 for his birthday. it's an epic little bike (but yes it is expensive...) They also make a Ramones 20 which is rigid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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