davej1402 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Im graduating from roadie to mtb after 30 years, but have never kept up with the techno side, so ive been looking, what is the ,if any, major diffirance in handling / feel between a mtb fitted with a vertical mount shock, or a horizontal one. .? Just an interesting point, in the 80's motorbikes went from 2 vertical mounts to one horizontal, it really smoothed the ride, no pogo bouncing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted June 11, 2019 Share Edited June 11, 2019 by Odinson CdT85, Rich990, Long Wheel Base and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave303e Posted June 11, 2019 Share whichever will allow 2 bottle cages, IMO Grubscrew, Rouxenator, nonky and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted June 11, 2019 Share Which ever you enjoy more, don't get caught up in all the technical BSÂ Most of us ride our bikes to barely 10% of their ability, so don't bother with people that tell you one design is better than the other for xyz reasons Underachiever, Sbloomer, Sepia and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted June 11, 2019 Share Isn't it obvious that vertical is better? Hairy, Zorro5614 and Tatt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouxenator Posted June 11, 2019 Share Hardtail is best. Dirt Tracker, Hairy, sirmoun10goat and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbz Posted June 11, 2019 Share Isn't it obvious that vertical is better?Right up until you try horizontal...Wait... what are we talking about again? Edited June 11, 2019 by Furbz Long Wheel Base and Odinson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted June 11, 2019 Share https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buyers-guides/buyers-guide-to-mountain-bike-suspension-part-1/Â https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buyers-guides/buyers-guide-to-mountain-bike-suspension-part-2/Â https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=146074&pagenum=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted June 11, 2019 Share The one you lust after is always better than the one you have..... Furbz, Patchelicious, Dirt Tracker and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted June 11, 2019 Share Hardtail is best. Close the thread. We have the answer. gogo@, Rouxenator and fanievb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Bikes Posted June 11, 2019 Share Hi Dave. Congrats on the graduation. Suspension performance/feel has very little to do with the orientation of the shox. The way a good (or bad) design functions is based on all the forces, angles and ratios of the pivots, linkages, material etc. Anyone trying to simplify it to shox orientation is trying to sell you their total lack of understanding of the topic. Focus on the actual (riding) performance of the design as a whole, not just a single component, and most importantly, how well it matches YOUR type of riding. Cheers  Im graduating from roadie to mtb after 30 years, but have never kept up with the techno side, so ive been looking, what is the ,if any, major diffirance in handling / feel between a mtb fitted with a vertical mount shock, or a horizontal one. .?Just an interesting point, in the 80's motorbikes went from 2 vertical mounts to one horizontal, it really smoothed the ride, no pogo bouncing. Jacoo, Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, Andymann and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 11, 2019 Share Right up until you try horizontal...Wait... what are we talking about again?  depends on the stroke. The longer the stroke the more vertical comes into its own Sepia, Dexter-morgan, Tatt and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted June 11, 2019 Share Im graduating from roadie to mtb after 30 years, but have never kept up with the techno side, so ive been looking, what is the ,if any, major diffirance in handling / feel between a mtb fitted with a vertical mount shock, or a horizontal one. .?Just an interesting point, in the 80's motorbikes went from 2 vertical mounts to one horizontal, it really smoothed the ride, no pogo bouncing.Not really graduating, more like settling. Patchelicious, Skubarra, L46 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted June 11, 2019 Share Hi Dave. Congrats on the graduation. Suspension performance/feel has very little to do with the orientation of the shox. The way a good (or bad) design functions is based on all the forces, angles and ratios of the pivots, linkages, material etc. Anyone trying to simplify it to shox orientation is trying to sell you their total lack of understanding of the topic. Focus on the actual (riding) performance of the design as a whole, not just a single component, and most importantly, how well it matches YOUR type of riding. CheersDear OP Listen to this ^^ man. He builds some of the best bikes available. He understand engineering better than 99.9999% of the people out there. davej1402, Eddy Gordo and Calculus Bikes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted June 11, 2019 Share depends on the stroke. The longer the stroke the more vertical comes into its own Horizontal is preferred if you're struggling with a bad back or knees, but set-up can help to mitigate any discomfort if opting for vertical.  DieselnDust, davej1402, Pure Savage and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted June 11, 2019 Share Hi Dave. Congrats on the graduation. Suspension performance/feel has very little to do with the orientation of the shox. The way a good (or bad) design functions is based on all the forces, angles and ratios of the pivots, linkages, material etc. Anyone trying to simplify it to shox orientation is trying to sell you their total lack of understanding of the topic. Focus on the actual (riding) performance of the design as a whole, not just a single component, and most importantly, how well it matches YOUR type of riding. Cheers The orientation of suspension makes zero difference, the set up makes more difference. F1 cars have had shocks in all orientations, same with rock climbing buggies etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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