EbenJ Posted September 30, 2019 Share Always been a Trek fan, and rode one of their old hardtails for 19 year. When time came for upgrade, I got better service from the Spez dealers, the Trek guys was not very concerned or serious about trying to sell me a bike, so that did it for me. And I did go to 2 Spez dealers just to confirm I did not just catch the Stellies Boys on a good day first time around...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted September 30, 2019 Share Always been a Trek fan, and rode one of their old hardtails for 19 year. When time came for upgrade, I got better service from the Spez dealers, the Trek guys was not very concerned or serious about trying to sell me a bike, so that did it for me. And I did go to 2 Spez dealers just to confirm I did not just catch the Stellies Boys on a good day first time around...... Owned a TREK ... VERY happy with Scott Spark 940 ! Certainly wont go back .... somebody already commented on comparing bikes from different era .... if you line up a range of 2020 bikes from different manufacturers, per category the differences will be very personal ... Hairy, Dexter-morgan, Mr. G and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Foot Posted September 30, 2019 Share Thanks all for the constructive feedback.I’m leaning to a Trek upgrade, however for the long distance rides that single bottle cage has me wondering if it’s worth it, my Camber is also single bottle and I do prefer to ride without a camelback where possible. Most longer events nowadays have enough water stations to be able to ride with 2 bottles over a 60+km ride. I enjoy the dropper post option for some of the exciting bits on a trail so a bottle cage on the seat post ain’t an option.Lifetime warranty on Trek frame and rims also got me interested, I just hope their after sales service can top my local Spez dealer......currently I’m not overly impressed.Next question: in Cape Town, who are the most specialised (note the correct spelling ) and friendliest Trek dealers?I’m based in Edgemead, so West Coast/North probably easier. Great forum, thanks for all the feedbackCheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted October 1, 2019 Share Craig just stay CLEAR of the TREK dealer in the Paarl. Best Bikes in Durbanville ..... 10% of the time I got good service there. Went there last week about a "Signal" bike, asking about the a bike on the Signal website ... got told the exact opposite of what is on the website. The lack of decent dealers on this side may well be why I got a bad taste for this brand ... Single bottle .... certainly agree with you ! I would like a two-bottle frame. Not many options for this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 1, 2019 Share R40k? For a 2019 frameset? That seems very cheap, especially compared to international pricing. Could have been 2018 models. They're all gone now.https://trailtechcycles.co.za/collections/complete-bikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmarc Posted October 1, 2019 Share I see a few comments on dealer service being the decision maker on the brand - If its TREK you want or SPEZ for that fact, why would dealer service or lack thereof make it a good or bad bike. Select your poison at dealer which gives you the best deal - even if its the local spaza shop. then go find a proper bike shop thats able to give you the service you need. Grease_Monkey, Craig Foot and DieselnDust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted October 1, 2019 Share ^ I agree, shop far and wide to get the best deal, then service at the best mechanic. Double win for you. Craig Foot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arendoog Posted October 1, 2019 Share Thanks all for the constructive feedback.I’m leaning to a Trek upgrade, however for the long distance rides that single bottle cage has me wondering if it’s worth it, my Camber is also single bottle and I do prefer to ride without a camelback where possible. Most longer events nowadays have enough water stations to be able to ride with 2 bottles over a 60+km ride. I enjoy the dropper post option for some of the exciting bits on a trail so a bottle cage on the seat post ain’t an option.Lifetime warranty on Trek frame and rims also got me interested, I just hope their after sales service can top my local Spez dealer......currently I’m not overly impressed.Next question: in Cape Town, who are the most specialised (note the correct spelling ) and friendliest Trek dealers?I’m based in Edgemead, so West Coast/North probably easier. Great forum, thanks for all the feedbackCheersA single bottle cage is not a deal breaker .I use a liter bottle and the rest i carry in my stomach or a thing on my back .Don,t make a decision on a bottle cage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. G Posted October 1, 2019 Share Owned a TREK ... VERY happy with Scott Spark 940 ! Certainly wont go back .... somebody already commented on comparing bikes from different era .... if you line up a range of 2020 bikes from different manufacturers, per category the differences will be very personal ... Also had a Trek last year, have had 2 Scott's since then and find it better value as well as a better ride. Craig Foot and ChrisF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EbenJ Posted October 1, 2019 Share I see a few comments on dealer service being the decision maker on the brand - If its TREK you want or SPEZ for that fact, why would dealer service or lack thereof make it a good or bad bike. Select your poison at dealer which gives you the best deal - even if its the local spaza shop. then go find a proper bike shop thats able to give you the service you need.Dealer service or the lack thereof will not make a bike better or worse either way. I think the point is if a dealer is unable / unwilling / incapable of even selling you a new or used bike, what is the chance of getting any, never mind good, after sales service? the idea is to enjoy the bike, not hassle and fight regarding after sales service that can and will take the enjoyment out of the experience.... Just saying..... ChrisF and Craig Foot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nox1111 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Am I missing the part you've actually put a Rand number to your budget?That would make a huge difference. Then: Are you dead set on Carbon or would top-end alloy be cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamS2 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Could have been 2018 models. They're all gone now.https://trailtechcycles.co.za/collections/complete-bikesEither way, great deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted October 1, 2019 Share I see a few comments on dealer service being the decision maker on the brand - If its TREK you want or SPEZ for that fact, why would dealer service or lack thereof make it a good or bad bike. Select your poison at dealer which gives you the best deal - even if its the local spaza shop. then go find a proper bike shop thats able to give you the service you need. And then Knipe_Racing (or which ever specialist maintenance outlet you want to use) has to phone TREK to buy yet another proprietery component .... And then you get to the point where you cant upgrade certain parts, because TREK was kind enough to go with such unique dimensions that no other part fits .... So you can only buy the same stuff, again and again .... I can only state my experiences with TREK. But most of us have heard similar from various other brands. Sadly, for any brand, you are at the mercy of there distribution network. So in my book, the perfect bike would be the one that uses "standard components". Then you are not tied to a dealer and/or supplier. EbenJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmarc Posted October 1, 2019 Share And then Knipe_Racing (or which ever specialist maintenance outlet you want to use) has to phone TREK to buy yet another proprietery component .... And then you get to the point where you cant upgrade certain parts, because TREK was kind enough to go with such unique dimensions that no other part fits .... So you can only buy the same stuff, again and again .... I can only state my experiences with TREK. But most of us have heard similar from various other brands. Sadly, for any brand, you are at the mercy of there distribution network. So in my book, the perfect bike would be the one that uses "standard components". Then you are not tied to a dealer and/or supplier. Which components on a TREK are proprietery ? I had my Superfly frame replaced by TREK with a 2019 Top Fuel and all the components fitted perfectly including the fork. New frame was boost, my standard SRAM 1 X 12 GX Eagle gruppo with GXP crank fitted without any modifications all i needed was a new BB which again was SRAM standard off the shelf. The only mod i needed was a BOOST kit for the rear hub, which luckily was HOPE so no problem there Maybe the rear shock (New frame supplied with one) but in reality how many of us actually replace a rear shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevief Posted October 1, 2019 Share Go to The Gear Change in Obz. Justin will sort you out. Great service nothing is to much for him. Edited October 1, 2019 by Stevief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevief Posted October 1, 2019 Share Better because it is a four year newer bike with modern geometry, suspension and components or what other way is the trek so much better in every department by?You have a point but at the same time i was looking at buying my new Bike i went staright back to Spez to get a new Camber as i was such a fan of the older model and the 2018 range had inferior components and value vs the then modern Trek. So the Trek was better for all the reasons you stated as the geo is better (longer slacker etc)Suspension was way better New Fox 34 vs Spax RS Recon, the rear shock was the Reactiv Fox which to me outperforms the brain and is simpler and cheaper to maintain, and the looks were serously way way niver than the Spaz. Also had boost , 130mm travel, mino link to make it even slacker, wide rims, and better brakes. Then i rode it and i have decimated every downhill PB i did on the Spaz . So basically BETTER in every way BUt maybe the new Stumpy has caught up to the Trek but now Trek has even moved the goalposts again with the 2020 range so to me SPez is always playing catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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