DieselnDust Posted September 21, 2020 Share True but being effectively state sponsored (think Astana / UAE / Bahrein) seems to be a more stable funding solution. Dougie should be glad he doesn't have the state involved. It would be just be another avenue for corruption. Tyres would cost R5000 and a Spaz would be a cool ZAR1,000,000-00 for Comp Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheabb78 Posted September 21, 2020 Share This article doesn't conclude much, but just wondering if anyone heard of similar over the past 3 weeks? https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nairo-quintanas-hotel-room-searched-by-french-police-on-tour-de-france/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted September 21, 2020 Share ... Which is why it won't happen in Africa by Africans. No entirely true... as Chris Froom will concur. The career of four-time tour winner Chris Froome started thousands of miles away in a tiny village on the outskirts of Nairobi. Kenyan professional cyclist David Kinjah took him on trips through the mountains and injected him with the cycling virus. While it has been fifteen years ago, David Kinjah (40) remembers it like it was yesterday. “After one of my races, a shy blond kid with a BMX-bike asked whether I wanted to teach him mountain biking. This little boy was Chris Froome.” The then 12-years-old Froome, grandson of British emigrants, lived with his single mother, Jane Froome, in a small, one bedroom apartment in Nairobi. She had no car, no money and worked multiple jobs in order to survive. “Because she didn’t know what to do with her son on school holidays, she asked if he could stay with me for those weeks.” And so Froome became part of the Safari Simbaz; boys from the neighbourhood, mostly orphans, who Kinjah trains in mountain biking and road cycling, but also teaches them to repair bikes so they can sustain themselves. Froome and Kinjah hit it off remarkably well. “Chris was a quick learner, easy going and soon became as passionate about cycling as I am.” https://www.compassmedia.nl/feature-post/the-kenyan-mentor-of-chris-froome/ peetwindhoek, Danger Dassie, ChrisF and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betaboy Posted September 21, 2020 Share Love it that the rim brake won over them all! proves that its still a big 'if' in road racing! The marketing guys must all be on leave... LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted September 21, 2020 Share No entirely true... as Chris Froom will concur. The career of four-time tour winner Chris Froome started thousands of miles away in a tiny village on the outskirts of Nairobi. Kenyan professional cyclist David Kinjah took him on trips through the mountains and injected him with the cycling virus. While it has been fifteen years ago, David Kinjah (40) remembers it like it was yesterday. “After one of my races, a shy blond kid with a BMX-bike asked whether I wanted to teach him mountain biking. This little boy was Chris Froome.” The then 12-years-old Froome, grandson of British emigrants, lived with his single mother, Jane Froome, in a small, one bedroom apartment in Nairobi. She had no car, no money and worked multiple jobs in order to survive. “Because she didn’t know what to do with her son on school holidays, she asked if he could stay with me for those weeks.” And so Froome became part of the Safari Simbaz; boys from the neighbourhood, mostly orphans, who Kinjah trains in mountain biking and road cycling, but also teaches them to repair bikes so they can sustain themselves. Froome and Kinjah hit it off remarkably well. “Chris was a quick learner, easy going and soon became as passionate about cycling as I am.” https://www.compassmedia.nl/feature-post/the-kenyan-mentor-of-chris-froome/Come on.... Using extremes as examples is cheap! hahahaha It 'can' happen, but still a white guy, and not a base which shares oppotunity and creates interest by changing the perception and image of cycling. I don't think anyone is saying 'there should be more black people in the peleton next year'. People are asking the question why an established sport like cycling and the pinnacle event in road cycling is so badly representative and what possibly needs to happen to change it. Let's not get hung up on the miracle stories or one off examples. Cycling is poorly representative and as stated, that is largely due to historical image and thus, a lack of interest. What can cycling do to change that? Do they want to? THOSE are the questions being asked. Well that's how I see it anyway. I don't think anyone is suggesting that there be a BBEE program to fast track anyone, but is there something world cycling can do to create interest AND opportunity for a different demographic... DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted September 21, 2020 Share No entirely true... as Chris Froom will concur. The career of four-time tour winner Chris Froome started thousands of miles away in a tiny village on the outskirts of Nairobi. Kenyan professional cyclist David Kinjah took him on trips through the mountains and injected him with the cycling virus. While it has been fifteen years ago, David Kinjah (40) remembers it like it was yesterday. “After one of my races, a shy blond kid with a BMX-bike asked whether I wanted to teach him mountain biking. This little boy was Chris Froome.” The then 12-years-old Froome, grandson of British emigrants, lived with his single mother, Jane Froome, in a small, one bedroom apartment in Nairobi. She had no car, no money and worked multiple jobs in order to survive. “Because she didn’t know what to do with her son on school holidays, she asked if he could stay with me for those weeks.” And so Froome became part of the Safari Simbaz; boys from the neighbourhood, mostly orphans, who Kinjah trains in mountain biking and road cycling, but also teaches them to repair bikes so they can sustain themselves. Froome and Kinjah hit it off remarkably well. “Chris was a quick learner, easy going and soon became as passionate about cycling as I am.” https://www.compassmedia.nl/feature-post/the-kenyan-mentor-of-chris-froome/Have met David and his sidekick Davidson on a few occasions.Good guys with a superb sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted September 21, 2020 Share No entirely true... as Chris Froom will concur. The career of four-time tour winner Chris Froome started thousands of miles away in a tiny village on the outskirts of Nairobi. Kenyan professional cyclist David Kinjah took him on trips through the mountains and injected him with the cycling virus. While it has been fifteen years ago, David Kinjah (40) remembers it like it was yesterday. “After one of my races, a shy blond kid with a BMX-bike asked whether I wanted to teach him mountain biking. This little boy was Chris Froome.” The then 12-years-old Froome, grandson of British emigrants, lived with his single mother, Jane Froome, in a small, one bedroom apartment in Nairobi. She had no car, no money and worked multiple jobs in order to survive. “Because she didn’t know what to do with her son on school holidays, she asked if he could stay with me for those weeks.” And so Froome became part of the Safari Simbaz; boys from the neighbourhood, mostly orphans, who Kinjah trains in mountain biking and road cycling, but also teaches them to repair bikes so they can sustain themselves. Froome and Kinjah hit it off remarkably well. “Chris was a quick learner, easy going and soon became as passionate about cycling as I am.” https://www.compassmedia.nl/feature-post/the-kenyan-mentor-of-chris-froome/Nice to see the many diverse riders at the SPUR schools MTB series. People bringing in trailers full of bikes, combis full of you riders. All age groups .... Male and female riders ... The few on their execessivly expensive bikes, many on entry level bikes, and even more on hand-me-down bikes (riders of all races) Even schools bringing groups of kids simply to watch the days racing, hoping to instill a love for the sport. The real irony .... sicial media is the biggest hurdle .... most schools have STRICT social media policies !! No teacher may post pics promoting these events. Information may only be passed on to the parents via school approved channels .... so unless the parent buys into cycling the kid wont ever see the promotional data sent to the schools .... O.well, there ARE dedicated teachers, and some parents, out there trying there best to promote cycling at schools level... and then we get TOLD not to promote and sporting events of which the date clashes with other schools events ... SA is a country of ball sports .... promoting cycling is DIFFICULT ... DieselnDust and matthieup 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted September 21, 2020 Share Love it that the rim brake won over them all! proves that its still a big 'if' in road racing! The marketing guys must all be on leave... LOL.Yeah, the guys did so much braking up the mountain on that time trial. Edited September 21, 2020 by Patchelicious Gen, Nibali and peetwindhoek 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_ Posted September 21, 2020 Share Yeah, the guys did so much breaking up the mountain on that time trail. After climbing that hill so stupidly fast Pog could have done with better brakes after the finish line. He went flying straight past his team Nibali, Patchelicious and Gen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted September 21, 2020 Share After climbing that hill so stupidly fast Pog could have done with better brakes after the finish line. He went flying straight past his team[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] Javas X 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted September 21, 2020 Share Yeah, the guys did so much breaking up the mountain on that time trail.Yeah he couldve gone faster had they just taken the brakes off. Mmm I am also almost sure Colnago were the first to introduce disks to Road Bikes..(I could be wrong though [emoji848]) Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur1 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Something like 88 riders crashed on that first or one of the first stages that was so wet. Wonder how many of them were on Disc brakes and how many rim brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 21, 2020 Share I try stay out of political/religious debates, but one thing sprung to mind earlier: Are the other ethnic groups around the world complaining about non-inclusive participation, eg. Asian, Arabs, Hindus, etc.? Or is it just one specific ethnic group that feels this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted September 21, 2020 Share I try stay out of political/religious debates, but one thing sprung to mind earlier: Are the other ethnic groups around the world complaining about non-inclusive participation, eg. Asian, Arabs, Hindus, etc.? Or is it just one specific ethnic group that feels this way?I don't think anyone was complaining. I think it was just noticed and questioned as to how 'vanilla' the peleton was at the TDF. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 21, 2020 Share I don't think anyone was complaining. I think it was just noticed and questioned as to how 'vanilla' the peleton was at the TDF.I get that, but it isn't only cycling, and involves other sports too. Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted September 21, 2020 Share I don't think anyone was complaining. I think it was just noticed and questioned as to how 'vanilla' the peleton was at the TDF.Have you seen how ‘vanilla’ the Argus or 94.7 are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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