Mawbs Posted October 28, 2019 Share Wondering if anyone has some input here.. Firstly does a Carbon bar give a smoother ride ( as i have read on reviews ) Secondly i currently have a spank oozy bar that has 30mm rise with 6deg backsweep & 4deg upsweep. want to possibly change to Csixx END Hi riser bar 20mm rise with 8deg backsweep & 5deg upsweep any idea how to calculate how much difference there would be between the 2 bars in terms of bar height etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 28, 2019 Share carbon bars look really cool. Aluminium is more flexy and rides softer"Carbon can be tuned to be softer but most are stiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted October 28, 2019 Share I found switching to carbon made a world of difference, it was a challenge with the new bike and listening to my LBS, they suggested I get a 30mm rise like you and as far as I could find on 1 780mm wide 30mm rise carbon bar exists. I then opted for the spank vibracore which is actually meant to be better at vibration dampening than carbon and considerably cheaper than importing the carbon one which was 160usd. Maybe take a look at that, but baring that which I can give feedback on in a few days, hell will freeze over before I subject my hands and arms to the torture that is ridding alu bars. nonky and CdT85 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbradd Posted October 28, 2019 Share I never thought of carbon bars as anything more than weight saving and bling. Got some in a good special to test... I found that carbon bars on MTB have more direct steering (feel stiffer when steering) but are softer on the hands (more vibration damping). This was changing from Giant Alu bars to Truvatuve Noir carbon bars. After that test, I would definitely recomend carbon bars as a legitimate upgrade over alu bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasilvarsa Posted October 28, 2019 Share Weight Saving but breaks easier (snap) if you hit a tree etc. Edited October 28, 2019 by dasilvarsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted October 28, 2019 Share Weight Saving but breaks easier (snap) if you hit a tree etc.how many times do you hit A tree in A year ? asking for a friend CdT85, Hairy, RobertWhitehead and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted October 28, 2019 Share Carbon softens the vibrations you feel compared to most alloy bars - the downside is cost for a quality product like Enve or similar - they are pretty strong but don't like nicks and scratches much - not that I have ever broken a set yet. Enve on my xc bikeCsix on my enduro bikeRitchey on my roadbikeNo name brand on my singlespeed.and Aluminium on the DH rig... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted October 28, 2019 Share When you buy carbon bars, buy a torque wrench as well (if you don't already have one). Torque the bolts exactly right, from the start, not to damage the bar. Trust nobody but yourself, or a very diligent mechanic that you know well, to do this. T-Bob, nonky, DieselnDust and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne pudding Mol Posted October 28, 2019 Share When you buy carbon bars, buy a torque wrench as well (if you don't already have one). Torque the bolts exactly right, from the start, not to damage the bar. Trust nobody but yourself, or a very diligent mechanic that you know well, to do this. And use carbon paste, it works and you can then even slightly under torque nonky, Hairy, DJR and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Crispy Posted October 28, 2019 Share And use carbon paste, it works and you can then even slightly under torqueYou'll find none of your mates ever have carbon paste.I seem to be the donor DJR and T-Bob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted October 28, 2019 Share You'll find none of your mates ever have carbon paste.I seem to be the donorMy bar came roughed or whatever at the clamp point, not needing paste. DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted October 28, 2019 Share The bar has a much smaller influence on vibration than your front tyre and suspension. (More movement= more energy dissipation.) A stiff bar will damp less, and a flexy bar will steer poorly.Conclusion: a bar is not a good place to look for damping. nonky, PhilipV, DJR and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted October 28, 2019 Share how many times do you hit A tree in A year ? asking for a friend Maybe manufactures should start looking at Self Healing Carbon for frames and components The tech is used in aero space and now in the new Lambo Jarl Borg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted October 28, 2019 Share I believe if your suspension setup and tyre pressure is spot on you are not going to notice a difference between a carbon and alu bar. I've had everything from cheap alu to expensive alu (Renthal) to high end carbon (cSixx) - I can't tell the difference. Where the difference comes in for me is the sweep (up and back) as well as rise - and the cSixx END Hi Rise (20mm) ticks the boxes for me. Have a pair on my Enduro bike and Hartdail for the last 3 years - very happy with it - it's the only carbon bit on any of my bikes and it's held up to all the abuse I've thrown at it. Edit: Grips also makes a world of difference... Edited October 28, 2019 by Grease_Monkey DieselnDust, nonky, Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted October 28, 2019 Share Maybe manufactures should start looking at Self Healing Carbon for frames and components The tech is used in aero space and now in the new LamboThen they can charge 300k+ for a bike nonky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me rida my bicycle Posted October 28, 2019 Share Carbon just rides better, I don't have any fancy explanation. My 2 bikes has same fork, both soft fat rubber 1 with alu bar and 1 with carbon and there's a noticeable difference. Wayne pudding Mol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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