Apemanscolony Posted November 5, 2019 Share Ok, i prob missed a few discussions on this topic, but what is people view? For both options i will either need to get a Microslpine Hub, or XD driver for the Sram... I like Shimano...but people say stay away?? 'Dale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knersboy Posted November 5, 2019 Share I really like the look of the Shimano, but there are not that many hubs that are microspline compatible. AFAIK the list is DT, Mavic, industry nine, fulcrum, with hope soon to come. Also you may sukkel to find most of them except DT. This is a big issue/pain in the #ss to me. Edited November 5, 2019 by Knersboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted November 5, 2019 Share I really like the look of the Shimano, but there are not that many hubs that are microspline compatible. AFAIK the list is DT, Mavic, industry nine, fulcrum, with hope soon to come. Also you may sukkel to find most of them except DT. This is a big issue/pain in the #ss to me. Hope should be readily available here around mid-april , maybe even in march if you're shopping off-shore my shimano 12 spd upgrade is booked Dexter-morgan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me rida my bicycle Posted November 5, 2019 Share There's nothing wrong with Shimano the only thing is the mircospline is only currently available on DT SWISS and Shimano hubs. Shimano looks better to me the derailleur looks smaller or stands out less either way less chance of catching it on something. Between Sram and Shimano has always been personal preference. The guys who love Sram will say Shimano is no good and same other way around. If I had to go 12 and you could fit a mircospline hub I would go with Shimano I think replacing parts is just cheaper or better quality if compared to same price Sram. Red Bird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apemanscolony Posted November 5, 2019 Share I have Specialized Roval DT Swiss Carbon wheels. I agree that its preference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yyyy Posted November 5, 2019 Share Question, how compatible is the Shimano 12 speed derailleur and chain with other 12 speed Cassettes. And how compatible is Shimano Cassette with other 12 speed groupsets The impression I get is that Sram works well with other 12 speed cassettes. nonky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knersboy Posted November 5, 2019 Share Question, how compatible is the Shimano 12 speed derailleur and chain with other 12 speed Cassettes. And how compatible is Shimano Cassette with other 12 speed groupsets The impression I get is that Sram works well with other 12 speed As I understand it you can use other 12 speed cassettes with Shimano 12 speed, but not the chain. To me the advantage of Shimano 12 speed is Hyperglide+, that benefit will be lost should you go with another cassette. Also don’t think conventional narrow wide chainrings are compatible with the chain, although often in practice these OEM announced incompatibilities are not really a problem. I would, however, go full shabang with Shimano if I chose it as my 12 speed option, and I currently ride with a 2x11 SRAM Shimano mix in my drive train (SRAM shifters and derailleur, Shimano cassette). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcv Posted November 5, 2019 Share Question, how compatible is the Shimano 12 speed derailleur and chain with other 12 speed Cassettes. And how compatible is Shimano Cassette with other 12 speed groupsets The impression I get is that Sram works well with other 12 speed cassettes. Upgraded to Shimano XT 12 from XT 11 but used the Sunrace cassette (11 - 50) on a standard Shimano free body. Works really well. When Hope has a microspline free body i'll upgrade to the Shimano cassette. My dad upgraded from GX to XTR on the GX cassette, also works very well. Don't know any reasons why you would want to avoid it. slickjay007, nonky and ChrisF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted November 5, 2019 Share I don't seee the Shimano components lasting as long as the XX1 stuff sirmoun10goat and slickjay007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcv Posted November 5, 2019 Share I don't seee the Shimano components lasting as long as the XX1 stuff the price difference is so large that you can replace whatever goes quickly. From evobike XTR upgrade kit R12K, XX1 upgrade kit R20K. a new XTR 10 - 51 Cassette is R5700. nonky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbe Posted November 6, 2019 Share Just done the switch from GX to XTR shifter and derailleur; using the SRAM cassette until I new microspline hubs come out to replace current Roval XD. Very happy with the setup and prefer Shimano to SRAM. Not fair to compare xtr to GX...the GX wasn't playing nice though. What I didn't initially consider was the shifter adaptor as I also changed brakes. Had to order a Shimano adaptor for the Hope brakes. Obviously not an issue if brakes are Shimano. Edited November 6, 2019 by keithbe sirmoun10goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmoun10goat Posted November 6, 2019 Share Just done the switch from GX to XTR shifter and derailleur; using the SRAM cassette until I new microspline hubs come out to replace current Roval XD. Very happy with the setup and prefer Shimano to SRAM. Not fair to compare xtr to GX...the GX wasn't playing nice though. What I didn't initially consider was the shifter adaptor as I also changed brakes. Had to order a Shimano adaptor for the Hope brakes. Obviously not an issue if brakes are Shimano.I’m sure if you switched from GX to XX1 you would be equally happy. How can people possibly compare GX with XTR Jarl Borg, DieselnDust and Wannabe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbe Posted November 6, 2019 Share I’m sure if you switched from GX to XX1 you would be equally happy. How can people possibly compare GX with XTRThere always has to be one. XTR doesn't cost anything near XX1 (or XO1 for that matter). Besides I did state it's not fair to compare GX and XTR. nonky and BaGearA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted November 6, 2019 Share I’m sure if you switched from GX to XX1 you would be equally happy. How can people possibly compare GX with XTRHe does make that disclaimer in his own post. nonky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted November 6, 2019 Share R12k (XTR M9100 upgrade kit) vs R16K (XO1 trigger upgrade kit) if you compare apples with apples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monark Posted November 6, 2019 Share R12k (XTR M9100 upgrade kit) vs R16K (XO1 trigger upgrade kit) if you compare apples with applesI thought that XT and XO1 were comparable? I am running XX1 Eagle coming from 11 speed XTR. I still miss the shifting options of XTR and the cost. nonky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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