boesman88 Posted May 29, 2020 Share I need some help please. I'm in need of replacing my standard SRAM Level brakes with a stronger set to handle my 110kgs. Need to choose between the above options. AFAIK the XTs are 2 POTs where the SRAMs are 4 POTs Need to make a decision pretty quick and haven't done too much research on this. I think I have a preference for Shimano. How good are the SRAMs? appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted May 29, 2020 Share on this forum, you will never find the common ground between the 2.I've been fortunate to ride both, and both are great brakes. I've settled for the zee brakes as my favorite, which i can't see it being much different to the 4pot xt's except the brown colourI've bought 2 2nd hand sets of guides, both of which i had to repaired because of their sticky pistons, and because of this shimano will get my vote.again, you will find here there will be pro shimano pro sram. choose the one you are used to and prefer. edit: spelling Edited May 29, 2020 by Meezo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Shimano does the 8120 which is a 4 pot brakehttps://www.evobikes.co.za/shimano-xt-br-m8120-disc-brake-set.html Perhaps factor rotor size into your discussion (180 rear and 200 front) - they work well for me and my Shimano XT M8000 setup Edited May 29, 2020 by splat Danger Dassie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted May 29, 2020 Share Any of the RSC levers from sram have excellent feel imo, they're reliable (if you're purchasing new, secondhand might still be in one of the weird batches) and provide ample power Can't comment on the new xt, m8000 was pretty good imo, everything you'd expect from a shimano lever DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted May 29, 2020 Share TRP Quadiem. Cheap, excellent modulation, takes shimano pads. Just get the sintered pads, they perform better. Headshot and Danger Dassie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boesman88 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Shimano does the 8120 which is a 4 pot brakehttps://www.evobikes.co.za/shimano-xt-br-m8120-disc-brake-set.html Depends which Sram model you want to use and compare Perhaps factor rotor size into your discussion (180 rear and 200 front) - they work well for me and my Shimano XT M8000 setup on this forum, you will never find the common ground between the 2.I've been fortunate to ride both, and both are great brakes. I've settled for the zee brakes as my favorite, which i can't see it being much different to the 4pot xt's except the brown colour I've bought 2 2nd hand sets of guides, both of which i had to repaired because of their sticky pistons, and because of this shimano will get my vote. again, you will find here there will be pro shimano pro sram. choose the one you are used to and prefer. edit: spelling That's the funny part - I ordered Zee's from CWC on 1 April. It showed in stock and they happily took my money. I expected some delays during COVID lock down, but two full months later my patients are wearing slightly thin. No delivery and promises on promises. Latest is they can offer me the Guide RCS 4 pot or XT 8100 2 pot as replacement options, or I wait for the Zee. Perhaps waiting for the Zees is the better option? I'm in any event unable to ride the bike until SRAM gets back to me that snap crackle and pop eagle chain of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehosefat Posted May 29, 2020 Share You can get 4 pot M8100 XT brakes and I'm absolutely loving mine. Definitely better modulation than the previous versions. Edited May 29, 2020 by Jehosefat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boesman88 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Any of the RSC levers from sram have excellent feel imo, they're reliable (if you're purchasing new, secondhand might still be in one of the weird batches) and provide ample power Can't comment on the new xt, m8000 was pretty good imo, everything you'd expect from a shimano lever does the servicing also require a complete replacement of the internals as for the Levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted May 29, 2020 Share does the servicing also require a complete replacement of the internals as for the Levels?No idea, I've never had sram brakes long enough to justify servicing them Hope all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boesman88 Posted May 29, 2020 Share No idea, I've never had sram brakes long enough to justify servicing them Hope all the way as it turns out, my SRAM brakes needed a major service within two years of use in addition to the snap_crackle_pop issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBKloppers Posted May 29, 2020 Share It has been said that you'll never get a clear answer here on the Hub. Too many opinions.My 2c is that the Shimano XT 2 pot will do fine as a brake set. I too had difficulty slowing down properly on the standard 180mm rotor size. Upgraded to the 200mm rotor and it is much, much better. The physics makes sense too. Its all about levers. That's the funny part - I ordered Zee's from CWC on 1 April. It showed in stock and they happily took my money. I expected some delays during COVID lock down, but two full months later my patients are wearing slightly thin. No delivery and promises on promises. Latest is they can offer me the Guide RCS 4 pot or XT 8100 2 pot as replacement options, or I wait for the Zee. Perhaps waiting for the Zees is the better option? I'm in any event unable to ride the bike until SRAM gets back to me that snap crackle and pop eagle chain of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon123 Posted May 29, 2020 Share on this forum, you will never find the common ground between the 2.I've been fortunate to ride both, and both are great brakes. I've settled for the zee brakes as my favorite, which i can't see it being much different to the 4pot xt's except the brown colour I have Zee on my DH bike, and the new XT (12 speed) 4-pot trail brakes on my trail bike. Before that I had the 4-pot XT M8000 series on my trail bike. Zee was definitely the best UNTIL I got the new XT 4pot. Holy crap. Makes the Zee feel weak in comparison (I also have had Saint). So off this "research", if someone wants cheap brakes, 4 pot, just get the new SLX or Deore 4 pots. They're basically the same and will have the power. Edited May 29, 2020 by Simon123 Me rida my bicycle and Meezo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted May 29, 2020 Share at over 100Kg I think you want to get a set of DH brakes. ZEESAINT TRP Quadiem.HOPEFormulaCODE how could I forget the Code.....?? Edited May 30, 2020 by DieselnDust Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverInTheRoad Posted May 29, 2020 Share You need DH brakes. You are too chunky for 2 piston brakes. Wait for the Shimano Zee from CWC and get 2 x 200mm ICE TECH rotors. The Zee are awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted May 29, 2020 Share I think I have posted this a million times on le hub.... Formula Cura are amazing. Great power, modulation, and lever feel. I am also over 100kg and ride steep, fast trails - they stop me easily. At the time I bought they were only available in 2 pot - but I would buy 4 pot now if I were in the market. 2 pots are really more than enough, but if budget allows 4 pots are the way to go. As for my experience with Sram - haven't had a good one yet, though the new Code RSC looks amazing. Shimano - I have XT m8000 2pots on my hardtail. The power is underwhelming and there is no modulation. Oh, and as an aside, do yourseld a favour and fit 180mm rear and 203mm front rotors from the get go. Edited May 29, 2020 by Grease_Monkey DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boesman88 Posted May 29, 2020 Share At 14% fat (meaning a little but not too fat) I will take chunky as a compliment lol Right, waiting for the ZEEs then. Max I think I can go on the back is 180 rotors (Scott RC900). will do 180 back and 203's in the front. should supply ample stopping power. Edited May 29, 2020 by boesman88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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