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I have a Cannondale Habit with a Rock Shox Recon fork and Formula hubs. The rear is a 142 x 12 mm thru axle and the fork is a 100 x 15 mm thru axle.

The thru axles are different brands (front is KCNC and rear Formula)

I am keen to replace both with stealth type axles.

 

Are all 142 x 15 mm and 100 x 12 mm thru axles compatible, or are they bike / fork specific?

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I have a Cannondale Habit with a Rock Shox Recon fork and Formula hubs. The rear is a 142 x 12 mm thru axle and the fork is a 100 x 15 mm thru axle.

The thru axles are different brands (front is KCNC and rear Formula)

I am keen to replace both with stealth type axles.

 

Are all 142 x 15 mm and 100 x 12 mm thru axles compatible, or are they bike / fork specific?

so, thru axles have different thread pitches. The fork will be easy to figure out as RS use a 1.5 pitch and a replacement axle usually specifies if it's a RS replacement.

 

The 12mm rear axles differ. Some have a 45 degree bevel, some are flat and, the pitch as well as overall length.

 

So measure your length, check the bevel/flat lever end and then google the thread pitch.

 

That way you can get the right one

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  • M12x1.0 — Scott / Santa Cruz

    • Fine thread. 168mm length with 12 mm thread length

  • Used by Santa Cruz and Scott. Santa Cruz models come OEM with a DT

M12x1.0, 167mm length with 20mm thread length. Maxle Stealth is available for Santa Cruz / Scott

M12x1.0 — X-12

  • 161 mm length

Used by Specialized. Syntace X-12. Inga’s BMC hardtail uses this.

M12x1.5 — E-Thru

  • Shimano rear E-thru 12mm “standard”

171 mm length, 18 mm thread length.

Used by BMC, Giant, Lapierre, Rocky, Yeti, Evil Following, some Kona models (not mine)

M12x1.5 — 160mm length, Road

  • 160mm length, 20mm thread length

Available as Maxle Stealth

M12x1.75 — Maxle

  • Rear Maxle used by Ibis, Niner, KTM, some Trek models, a BMC model. Some Kona models too (turns out this was the size I needed)

174 mm length. 20mm thread length

This is just for a regular non-boost rear thru axle. There’s also the boost 148 length. In the 12x148mm “standard” you need to choose from multiple thread pitches as well.

  • M12x1.5 — Boost E-thru

    • 170mm length, 10mm thread length

M12x1.75 — Boost

  • 180mm length, 20mm thread length

Plus there are additional lengths for Split Pivot bikes and Trek Boost ABP.

https://bermstyle.com/how-to-determine-thread-pitch-on-rear-thru-axle/

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Thanks Morne

 

That helps a lot

 

 

  • M12x1.0 — Scott / Santa Cruz
    • Fine thread. 168mm length with 12 mm thread length
    • Used by Santa Cruz and Scott. Santa Cruz models come OEM with a DT
    • M12x1.0, 167mm length with 20mm thread length. Maxle Stealth is available for Santa Cruz / Scott
  • M12x1.0 — X-12
    • 161 mm length
    • Used by Specialized. Syntace X-12. Inga’s BMC hardtail uses this.
  • M12x1.5 — E-Thru
    • Shimano rear E-thru 12mm “standard”
    • 171 mm length, 18 mm thread length.
    • Used by BMC, Giant, Lapierre, Rocky, Yeti, Evil Following, some Kona models (not mine)
  • M12x1.5 — 160mm length, Road
    • 160mm length, 20mm thread length
    • Available as Maxle Stealth
  • M12x1.75 — Maxle
    • Rear Maxle used by Ibis, Niner, KTM, some Trek models, a BMC model. Some Kona models too (turns out this was the size I needed)
    • 174 mm length. 20mm thread length

This is just for a regular non-boost rear thru axle. There’s also the boost 148 length. In the 12x148mm “standard” you need to choose from multiple thread pitches as well.

  • M12x1.5 — Boost E-thru
    • 170mm length, 10mm thread length
  • M12x1.75 — Boost
    • 180mm length, 20mm thread length
  • Plus there are additional lengths for Split Pivot bikes and Trek Boost ABP.

https://bermstyle.com/how-to-determine-thread-pitch-on-rear-thru-axle/

 

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i found out the hard way when i ordered axles for my trek that threads are not universal 

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Really handy that manufacturers make guides like this, One-Up has a similar one on their website.

 

I thinks something like the SRAM Universal Derailleur Hanger is a step in the right direction, it has M12x1 thread and the idea is to be compatible across a number of bikes.

 

 

Have found the attached Wolf Tooth rear axle guide very useful especially when ordering axles for IDT setups

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Really handy that manufacturers make guides like this, One-Up has a similar one on their website.

 

I thinks something like the SRAM Universal Derailleur Hanger is a step in the right direction, it has M12x1 thread and the idea is to be compatible across a number of bikes.

As long as bike manufacturers can sell hangers at 500 plus ZA rondts I can't see them going for any standard... I mean there's that one that even sells a different hanger depending on whether you are running SRAM or Shimano for crying out loud [emoji848]
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the thread may be different

someone made a thru axle first.

 

which dickwad made a thru axle with a different thread pitch?

 

please can we name and shame the moron who was:

a)too lazy to keep it universal

b)evil enough to make their TA proprietary

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Its like Cannondale does EVERYTHING different just for the sake of being different.  In afrikaans its the oke who is always "dwars".  

 

(And I own a couple of 'dales so I think I'm justified to bitch about this).

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Actually my 'dale matches my pyga/syntace and my specialised gravel bike (threadwise at least). The Trek is the misfit.

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