Vetplant Posted September 28, 2020 Share new Sagan. He can climb better that Sagan could/can and on the TT as well (Wout)Yes. But I think what MechEng was alluding to was the time peroid when nobody wanted to work with Sagan during his peak, because they would then always just finish 2nd behind him. So they made him chase all the attacks. It might be difficult for Wout to win any more Classics this season from a breakaway group. He will be heavily marked and left to chase all the attacks. Sagan needed to learn a new way to win, and he showed it emphatically with his Paris-Roubaix victory. Wout will need to be the aggressor and make them chase him instead. Long Wheel Base, kosmonooit, Rowl and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted September 28, 2020 Share Anyone else sat their waiting for MvDP to pull an Amstel Gold and pull the whole group to JAP and take the win? Mntboy, Vetplant, Christie and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suidwes Boytjie Posted September 28, 2020 Share I am super stoked for Julian Alaphilippe... Big fan of him as well, but imo this has been coming. He has shown signs during the TDF already and I think the fact that he didn't won anymore stages during the TDF with his efforts on some stages, this just made him more hungry for this than ever. Mntboy, FondTF2 and kosmonooit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mntboy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Sorry bud, best to keep that quietWhy? Seems a strange thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted September 28, 2020 Share Riding/Not Riding the TDF did not seem to be the determining factor for the results again. So we can park that idea. The riders with form placed well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted September 28, 2020 Share Anyone else sat their waiting for MvDP to pull an Amstel Gold and pull the whole group to JAP and take the win? Don't know why he felt the course didn't suit him. He seems to be having a confused season Pure Savage, Underachiever and Vetplant 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted September 28, 2020 Share Yes. But I think what MechEng was alluding to was the time peroid when nobody wanted to work with Sagan during his peak, because they would then always just finish 2nd behind him. So they made him chase all the attacks. It might be difficult for Wout to win any more Classics this season from a breakaway group. He will be heavily marked and left to chase all the attacks. Sagan needed to learn a new way to win, and he showed it emphatically with his Paris-Roubaix victory. Wout will need to be the aggressor and make them chase him instead.Good point - remember Spartacus had the same problem and this is what I was saying a page back or so and the best thing he can do is make an alliance with someone in such conditions, then breakaway from the rest and the other would be assured at least a 2nd/ 3rd place. Easier said than done I guess, Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted September 28, 2020 Share Don't know why he felt the course didn't suit him. He seems to be having a confused season Maybe he is just going for Roubaix? Vetplant, Wayne pudding Mol and DieselnDust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mntboy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Maybe he is just going for Roubaix?If MVDP were to win it, I think he would prove a fairly popular winner in France given his maternal grand parentage. Would be hard for the French to dislike Raymond Poulidor's grandson. Or at least that's my reasoning. Vetplant and Pure Savage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted September 28, 2020 Share JA is such a classy rider. He's that opponent that other's hate to play against as he's always putting them on the back foot with something hard-to-deal-with. We're going to see lots of the rainbow jersey in the next 12 months. And a good few victories along the way. Duane_Bosch, Vetplant, Mntboy and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted September 28, 2020 Share Don't know why he felt the course didn't suit him. He seems to be having a confused seasonToo much vertical....MvdP is more of a classics ride...plus aiming for Amstel Gold Race, Ronde van Vlaanderen, Paris-Roubaix Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted September 28, 2020 Share Don't know why he felt the course didn't suit him. He seems to be having a confused season With the rise of MVDP and WVA, then the utter domination of MVDP, it seemed there was no limit. Yet this (crazy) year has seen WVA be incredible. I remarked recently that with each WVA pedal-stroke, MVDP's lustre seems to fade. "Seems" - I'm waiting with baited breathe for the classics season to finally start. Long Wheel Base, Underachiever, Mntboy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted September 28, 2020 Share If MVDP were to win it, I think he would prove a fairly popular winner in France given his maternal grand parentage. Would be hard for the French to dislike Raymond Poulidor's grandson. Or at least that's my reasoningMvdP is claimed by both the Belgians and Dutch as one of their own and the French would bestow an honorary citizenship on him if asked. Think his popularity is even wider though due to his entertaining racing style Mntboy and Vetplant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbr Posted September 28, 2020 Share Why? Seems a strange thing to say.yeah I'm not too sure what he meant by that Mntboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mntboy Posted September 28, 2020 Share MvdP is claimed by both the Belgians and Dutch as one of their own and the French would bestow an honorary citizenship on him if asked. Think his popularity is even wider though due to his entertaining racing styleI think that this is basically 95% of the reason a lot of our fellow hubbers like him. He is a showman and you know that if he's targeting a race he is going to give it a 100% outright effort, think RVV last year or even his win at Amstel Gold. Very hard to dislike someone who races like that. I dig his personality too, seems to have a good grip on when he needs to be very focused and when he needs to be more relaxed. Also very good at both XCO and CX, and yes I know that something of an understatement. Underachiever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mntboy Posted September 28, 2020 Share yeah I'm not too sure what he meant by that I get the Saffa beef with the Aussies but you Frenchies are quite ok in my books. At least you guys play proper rugby unlike them Aussies. Vetplant, Underachiever and matthieup 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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