DieselnDust Posted April 9, 2021 Share I generally only go to the 50t on very steep gravel climbs and normally only above half way up what is your power to weight ratio?If above 3.5W/kg you should be able to ride up anything up to a 22% gradient.If below that drop to a 34T or a 32T chainring and you won't loose out on top speed because I doubt you can ride an mtb at 50km/hr for longer than a minute. If you can whats the real problem because then you're likely >4W/Kg!!!????!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott roy Posted April 9, 2021 Share what is your power to weight ratio?If above 3.5W/kg you should be able to ride up anything up to a 22% gradient.If below that drop to a 34T or a 32T chainring and you won't loose out on top speed because I doubt you can ride an mtb at 50km/hr for longer than a minute. If you can whats the real problem because then you're likely >4W/Kg!!!????!!I do about 4.1W/kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenkD Posted April 9, 2021 Share mmm. The easiest might be to lose a little more weight if possible. Found it to make the biggest difference on the bike. This is sound advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted April 9, 2021 Share I do about 4.1W/kg I am having difficulty understanding why this thread exists if your FTP is 4.1 w/kg. Robbie Stewart, DieselnDust, eala and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott roy Posted April 9, 2021 Share This is sound adviceUnfortunately I don’t have any to lose...I am just short of 6 foot and weigh 60kg MudLark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted April 9, 2021 Share I doubt you can ride an mtb at 50km/hr for longer than a minute. Maybe on a flat but going down Chappies for example is another story! :-) DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Spin Posted April 9, 2021 Share I generally only go to the 50t on very steep gravel climbs and normally only above half way up So you don't max out your cassette but you want to go smaller on the front? This makes no sense. You output +4w/kg as well. The problem is your friends outperform you on the climbs? I think the solution is to train harder and not to change your components. What is your training program or do you just ride? DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted April 9, 2021 Share ....wait...are you not perhaps Vanzeelism? gerriemtb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerriemtb Posted April 9, 2021 Share ....wait...are you not perhaps Vanzeelism?Can't be, if it was, he would have had the correct gearing Robbie Stewart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott roy Posted April 9, 2021 Share So you don't max out your cassette but you want to go smaller on the front? This makes no sense. You output +4w/kg as well. The problem is your friends outperform you on the climbs? I think the solution is to train harder and not to change your components. What is your training program or do you just ride?I do max it out on steep climbs although I do try my hardest not to. I train with Amric most of the time so we have a program. I’ve been trying since last year to get a climbing strategy that works well with me and I was recommended recently to get a smaller chainring but then I rode a bike with a 34t and yes it climbs a lot better but I felt like I lost my top end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasilvarsa Posted April 9, 2021 Share I do max it out on steep climbs although I do try my hardest not to. I train with Amric most of the time so we have a program. I’ve been trying since last year to get a climbing strategy that works well with me and I was recommended recently to get a smaller chainring but then I rode a bike with a 34t and yes it climbs a lot better but I felt like I lost my top endTop End Will be Reduced Slightly by 5.5 % approximately. 40 Km/Hr becomes 37,8 Km/Hr approximately DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted April 10, 2021 Share I do max it out on steep climbs although I do try my hardest not to. I train with Amric most of the time so we have a program. I’ve been trying since last year to get a climbing strategy that works well with me and I was recommended recently to get a smaller chainring but then I rode a bike with a 34t and yes it climbs a lot better but I felt like I lost my top end What's the maximum cadence you happily spin away at? Most people AFAIK can do 110/115 without too much trouble, which should give you near enough 50km/h on a 34/10 29er setup. For short bursts a lot of folk can usefully do 10 or 15 more - which should give you about 56km/h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted April 10, 2021 Share What's the maximum cadence you happily spin away at? Most people AFAIK can do 110/115 without too much trouble, which should give you near enough 50km/h on a 34/10 29er setup. For short bursts a lot of folk can usefully do 10 or 15 more - which should give you about 56km/h.110/115 'without too much trouble' ... Just before that I'm already unscrewing my hips! eala 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted April 10, 2021 Share 110/115 'without too much trouble' ... Just before that I'm already unscrewing my hips! My normal cadence used to be 80 to 90. My coach got me to shift it to 90 -100 as my normal cadence. My structured workouts require me run 110 to 115 at times; sometimes I unthinkingly spin at 120/5. I can do a bit more than that when necessary. Pro cyclists on rollers can run as much 250 or more. Watch the vids below. Japanese training school: Natie Koch: Now watch this guy doing 150. Doesn't seem that fast, does it? But maybe the OP's answer lies in a 2x12. Edited April 10, 2021 by MudLark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky DQ Posted April 10, 2021 Share Thanks. That’s what I’ve been wondering if it’s better to climb faster and then go a bit slower on flats or downhills or climb even slower but blast flatsYou wont go slower on the flats, unless you are a beast, so what is the issue. Go 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky DQ Posted April 10, 2021 Share Maybe on a flat but going down Chappies for example is another story! :-)But that is a road and MTB's don't belong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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