Bicyclegear Posted April 13, 2021 Share After 30 years of riding the pipetrack above Hout Bay, it has been closed! The pipetrack is a peculiar piece of thoroughfare, traversing multiple landowners, including private and SanParks land. It route has been so important for anyone wanting to stay off the Main Road, when riding into or out of Hout Bay. ERF 1783 is private land and the owner has decided to start developing. He is doing this by putting up a big black fence both sides of the pipetrack on his property. Effectively making a dead-end, if you are coming up from Hout Bay. I believe he is well within his rights to do so. Would it not be awesome to for this developer see the value that cyclist and cycling bring to Hout Bay and greater Cape Town. Would it not be clever and a great bit of PR for this developer to integrate a bicycle thoroughfare through his property? Who knows given the profile of the cyclist, he might sell a house to one. Let us see how this unfold! BeeRad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alouette3 Posted April 13, 2021 Share I believe he is well within his rights to do so. Would it not be awesome to for this developer see the value that cyclist and cycling bring to Hout Bay and greater Cape Town. .I noticed the gate track being layed on the weekend. Can I ask why you say it's in his rights to do so? To the best of my knowledge this land was always part of the roads department and many times over the years they talked about tarring and using it as a bypass for Constantia Nek. My feeling is that a precedent has been set over the last couple decades, as it has always been open to cyclists and walkers, even being using to get around accidents when the Nek has been closed. They have put up fences in the past, but they have always been removed! Never felt safe cycling up the Nek and the pipe track was always my route having grown up in Hout Bay. Think a petition is in order. Is the erf that was sold not only above the pipe track road? Hilton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted April 13, 2021 Share I noticed the gate track being layed on the weekend. Can I ask why you say it's in his rights to do so? To the best of my knowledge this land was always part of the roads department and many times over the years they talked about tarring and using it as a bypass for Constantia Nek. My feeling is that a precedent has been set over the last couple decades, as it has always been open to cyclists and walkers, even being using to get around accidents when the Nek has been closed. They have put up fences in the past, but they have always been removed! Never felt safe cycling up the Nek and the pipe track was always my route having grown up in Hout Bay. Think a petition is in order. Is the erf that was sold not only above the pipe track road? This!!That road has heritage or soemthing or the other. Same thing happened in langebaan where the land owner tried to close a road now called stompneus drive. It went to court and the road is still open. This was a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicyclegear Posted April 14, 2021 Share If you look at the EGIS erf map for Cape Town, you will see that ERF 1783. I think a list would be a great start, showing how many people actually use the pipetrack. I think the approach should be about, showing the land owner how many people use the pipetrack. Is Change.org a good online petition site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicyclegear Posted April 14, 2021 Share I noticed the gate track being layed on the weekend. Can I ask why you say it's in his rights to do so? To the best of my knowledge this land was always part of the roads department and many times over the years they talked about tarring and using it as a bypass for Constantia Nek. My feeling is that a precedent has been set over the last couple decades, as it has always been open to cyclists and walkers, even being using to get around accidents when the Nek has been closed. They have put up fences in the past, but they have always been removed! Never felt safe cycling up the Nek and the pipe track was always my route having grown up in Hout Bay. Think a petition is in order. Is the erf that was sold not only above the pipe track road? The pipetrack traverses a number of properties. The pipetrack does indeed carry water into Hout Bay, The city leases the road from each land owner. When I developed the Vlakkenberg MTB trail, I had to find out all of this the hard way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicyclegear Posted April 14, 2021 Share This!!That road has heritage or soemthing or the other. Same thing happened in langebaan where the land owner tried to close a road now called stompneus drive. It went to court and the road is still open. This was a few years ago.Do you have link to the article still? Grumpyoldgit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted April 14, 2021 Share 1st questions, does the developer even know of the road/trail access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted April 14, 2021 Share If you look at the EGIS erf map for Cape Town, you will see that ERF 1783. I think a list would be a great start, showing how many people actually use the pipetrack. I think the approach should be about, showing the land owner how many people use the pipetrack. Is Change.org a good online petition site?How do you find that erf one the map?I searched erf 1783. Nothing1783, houtbay. Nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicyclegear Posted April 14, 2021 Share 1st questions, does the developer even know of the road/trail access.Does anyone know the of the developer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicyclegear Posted April 14, 2021 Share How do you find that erf one the map?I searched erf 1783. Nothing1783, houtbay. Nothinghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1oNwdNoJR0mYvmurxCQz0B1Pdowmih2zuWIVJWBbV2vEASfOc1T7ncDAZe2xilH_vD55z6p0_Oq-G-Jh1ySv7qw6A47s7a7cAayaFIlwyVQRZC0s5PTs5t50jgj3lmBjXLFG16bohawtW09u4cy2U5ierGP5GH-b_UkA3tN6qt7LaiCiAqqdqCPB0v4yCJFYi-PR8jwGu29yMAeXkeUnrj304od0C0EItRP7NCvVynDeeLBx-bT2e7xuxP_QoAxvAnkEkXoR2TVaQ7cXsdHptwb3SS4LGA2phxTXrf-RMT9jJFVyRHMbz0dp6im1ZERcF3plzuNwjuPLU9DZ1P_6HU6Kd7lXUBcvS3oP8Gu4t1Zs7bAiyWZpOicVZmhci26j2W1U1Yi-ezWAIE9DRhJlZgfbg807Qz0269ZenKElW-WalsCODKYz9z7p1yIVf9Pg9oUb-eC2NtvYq8uU2gwPGZbGczbjmabizRwQlBK6czgd4op5fPvxRu8TXZJxve5qQyoJYlderdW8eDt8xwBKGWE2nBS1Byuv_8MUNO4Uu3YA8vGwd42NpcGobtwbtXCHt45lzRKJpTKzr1KZJ1jB7ojxAkWGV1CsLPytkgBB28vMK26YRSq_Ll95jM2FX6beuoa-Ifs-CbZB6FiCnqyFr2eBqHkJORJNwEBGylD9j84WcYy5XlK2wroSKelQ6WrkljhWQPc28mB0GF1UCoA-4A8u=w457-h538-no?authuser=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted April 14, 2021 Share https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1oNwdNoJR0mYvmurxCQz0B1Pdowmih2zuWIVJWBbV2vEASfOc1T7ncDAZe2xilH_vD55z6p0_Oq-G-Jh1ySv7qw6A47s7a7cAayaFIlwyVQRZC0s5PTs5t50jgj3lmBjXLFG16bohawtW09u4cy2U5ierGP5GH-b_UkA3tN6qt7LaiCiAqqdqCPB0v4yCJFYi-PR8jwGu29yMAeXkeUnrj304od0C0EItRP7NCvVynDeeLBx-bT2e7xuxP_QoAxvAnkEkXoR2TVaQ7cXsdHptwb3SS4LGA2phxTXrf-RMT9jJFVyRHMbz0dp6im1ZERcF3plzuNwjuPLU9DZ1P_6HU6Kd7lXUBcvS3oP8Gu4t1Zs7bAiyWZpOicVZmhci26j2W1U1Yi-ezWAIE9DRhJlZgfbg807Qz0269ZenKElW-WalsCODKYz9z7p1yIVf9Pg9oUb-eC2NtvYq8uU2gwPGZbGczbjmabizRwQlBK6czgd4op5fPvxRu8TXZJxve5qQyoJYlderdW8eDt8xwBKGWE2nBS1Byuv_8MUNO4Uu3YA8vGwd42NpcGobtwbtXCHt45lzRKJpTKzr1KZJ1jB7ojxAkWGV1CsLPytkgBB28vMK26YRSq_Ll95jM2FX6beuoa-Ifs-CbZB6FiCnqyFr2eBqHkJORJNwEBGylD9j84WcYy5XlK2wroSKelQ6WrkljhWQPc28mB0GF1UCoA-4A8u=w457-h538-no?authuser=0Cool thanks. I see the pic you posted but can not find yhat I still can not find it using the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted April 14, 2021 Share The city should really put in a bike path/lane on the side of the road as well like the one in constania, that grey hard pack stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted April 14, 2021 Share The city should really put in a bike path/lane on the side of the road as well like the one in constania, that grey hard pack stuff.The city doesn't even fill potholes anymore mate. Hairy, marko35s and Jewbacca 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted April 14, 2021 Share The city doesn't even fill potholes anymore mate.My potholes I report get fixed in 3 days. Also, the street clearing and trees that I have logged have been attended to. Hairy, ALBERT MICHAEL and Wannabe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieV Posted April 14, 2021 Share Cool thanks. I see the pic you posted but can not find yhat I still can not find it using the site Use: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=65627cedc9af43a6886634e21f5ca750 and then copy paste:18.40, -34.02into the search. Bicyclegear and Quagga 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted April 14, 2021 Share Does anyone know the of the developer?Have you contacted the roads or town planning department to ask them RE the works? That area should fall under Southern District, relevant details attached and hopefully they can assist you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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