SRAM Rival goes 12-speed wireless with eTap AXS

[Jbr]

When are we getting wireless brakes?

Gonna be fun when you run out of battery 

[DieselnDust]

Gonna be fun when you run out of battery 

 

 

or when the BT signal is interrupted. Better pray you can beat the Benz LOL

[Pure Savage]

So only 850g more than 105 and more expensive... OK

[JA-Q001]

Well, 105 is 11spd, mechanical and old tech. You can still buy Rival22 for the same price as the current 105 and its lighter.

 

Lets see when (if ever) Shimano brings out 105 Di2, what it will cost and what its weight will be. Until then, you are not comparing on the same scale.

Edited April 22, 2021 by JA-Q001

[Mongoose!]

So only 850g more than 105 and more expensive... OK

 

85g or 850g ?    

[Pure Savage]

Well, 105 is 11spd, mechanical and old tech. You can still buy Rival22 for the same price as the current 105 and its lighter.

 

Lets see when (if ever) Shimano brings out 105 Di2, what it will cost and what its weight will be. Until then, you are not comparing on the same scale.

Yeah, the Sram needs a weigh bridge, not a scale.

[Pure Savage]

85g or 850g ?    

Closer to 900g. 

 

Thats vs a mechanical 105 disc groupset. 

 

The only advantage is the rival goes beep.

 

It changes gears and stops the bike, just adding 900g. Its a groupset, apples and apples. 

 

Not comparing it to a 105 groupset rim brake with a SI crank.

[DieselnDust]

SRAM lists the groupset weight with the biggest range cassette

Shimano lists weights with lowest rnge cassette.

SRAM lists weight with batteries without cables and hoses

Shimano lists groupset weight without battery and w/o cables or hoses.

 

not quite apples with apples but generally teh SRAm road electronic group components are heavier. However one needs to consider what the weight difference is of working systems

[Mongoose!]

Closer to 900g. 

 

 

 

Please tell me the rotor's weight is included with this extra kg?  

[JA-Q001]

So having done some research:

 

Shimano 105 R7020 (including all cables): 3129 gr

RRP at launch: $ 1130

 

SRAM Rival AXS (Including everything) :3206 gr

RRP at launch: $ 1639 incl Power meter

 

So an extra gear and electric shifting gives you 77 gr penalty.

 

Price can not be compared, because 105 R7020 is almost 4 years old. 

 

Edit: The Rival also includes the Power meter.

Edited April 22, 2021 by JA-Q001

[DieselnDust]

So having done some research:

 

Shimano 105 R7020 (including all cables): 3129 gr

RRP at launch: $ 1130

 

SRAM Rival AXS (Including everything) :3206 gr

RRP at launch: $ 1639 incl Power meter

 

So an extra gear and electric shifting gives you 77 gr penalty.

 

Price can not be compared, because 105 R7020 is almost 4 years old. 

 

Edit: The Rival also includes the Power meter.

 

 

indeed, SRAM is listing the fullest spec group while Shimano the most weight optimistic