BaGearA Posted April 28, 2021 Share Shimano introduces a new drivetrain technology today, Linkglide. It’s designed not to be the lightest weight but to prioritise durability and shift performance. It also represents something of a fork in the road for the brand’s drivetrains. There will still be Hyperglide+, and this will remain the lightweight fast shifting performance range, while Linkglide will sit alongside their current offerings, as opposed to replacing them.Shimano claims that their testing shows that Linkglide cassettes are 300% more durable than prior Hyperglide cassettes, and three times less degradation to the cassette should mean fewer chain skips, more mileage, and better shifting long into the cassette’s lifespan. Linkglide will be available in either 10 speed Deore (RD-M5130-SGS) or 11 speed Deore XT (RD-M8130-SGS).Before we all celebrate too quickly, there is one small catch - the Linkglide technology, while introduced in Deore 1x10 or XT 1x11 speed as a highly durable option, is not cross compatible or retrofittable with current drivetrains due to different gear pitches. All Linkglide components will feature a logo to differentiate them from their stablemates. A CS-LG600-11 11-50T XT cassette, pictured, weighs 780g. The CS-LG600-10 11-43T Deore cassette is slightly lighter at 634g.The teeth of Linkglide cassettes are made from plated steel with a new shape to reduce wear and tear. The teeth feature a thicker and more robust construction to prevent wear in the areas that experience the most degradation over time. Linkglide cassette teeth are also taller and stronger towards the tips to prevent chain skipping and tooth deformation, even as the miles add up. Sprockets 11T, 13T, 15T of the cassettes are replaceable.The Linkglide cassettes also feature a new shifting gate design and position, enabling the chain to move smoothly across the sprockets. These gates aim to reduce pedal shock or jumps during shifting, providing better pedaling fluidity and smoother pedaling performance. The SL-M8130-R XT shifter; the SL-M5130-R Deore shifter is available with an optional shift window.Two new shifters, again Deore and XT, are available. The XT has multiple clamping options whereas the Deore makes do with a simple band. The shifters use a different pull ratio to the rest of Shimano's range so are not compatible with non-Linkglide systems. They are, however, somewhat interchangeable with each other thanks to a linear pull ratio. That means an 11 speed shifter will work on a 10 speed derailleur.Linkglide cassettes are compatible with standard HG freehubs. To accompany the new Linkglide cassettes, there are also new Deore XT and Deore derailleurs and shifters. The derailleurs feature Shimano’s Shadow RD+ low profile design and clutch mechanism.All Linkglide drivetrains use a common chain design, regardless of the number of cogs on the cassette. Existing 11-speed Shimano chains are compatible with Linkglide drivetrains. It’s perhaps also worth noting that all Shimano 11-speed chains are currently e-bike rated or e-bike designed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWhitehead Posted April 28, 2021 Share I wonder two things: What sort of price range we'll be looking at for this shinny new kit? How much more miles will this deliver?I mean, if you get let's say 10-15% more in terms of miles but the product is 25-30% more expensive then you get where I am heading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted April 28, 2021 Share I wonder two things: What sort of price range we'll be looking at for this shinny new kit?How much more miles will this deliver?I mean, if you get let's say 10-15% more in terms of miles but the product is 25-30% more expensive then you get where I am heading I thi k it will be similar pricing, mostly steel construction Those cassette weights are nogal crazy but there's a market for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted April 28, 2021 Share I wonder two things: What sort of price range we'll be looking at for this shinny new kit?How much more miles will this deliver?I mean, if you get let's say 10-15% more in terms of miles but the product is 25-30% more expensive then you get where I am heading It says 300% in the article... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWhitehead Posted April 28, 2021 Share 300% more durable, I wonder how they measured that. I mean if a normal cassette gives you 5000km will this one then give 15000km? I mean I was being conservative, you may never need to replace the drivetrain It says 300% in the article... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted April 28, 2021 Share 300% more durable, I wonder how they measured that. I mean if a normal cassette gives you 5000km will this one then give 15000km? I mean I was being conservative, you may never need to replace the drivetrain The theory sounds good (plated steel, thicker wear points etc). Half their claim is conservative - 5% of the total is just criminal :-) That said - I'm a bit of a Shimano fan boy so I'm definitely biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted April 28, 2021 Share 300% more durable, I wonder how they measured that. I mean if a normal cassette gives you 5000km will this one then give 15000km? I mean I was being conservative, you may never need to replace the drivetrain 5 and 15k? You need to ride more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted April 28, 2021 Share ROTFLMAO bask to the future with Shimano Edited April 28, 2021 by DieselnDust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdT85 Posted April 28, 2021 Share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NiBzz9mp8 Seems it more directed at the ebike market? WrightJnr and Heinrichgg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWhitehead Posted April 28, 2021 Share 90% of my riding is done indoors . 5 and 15k? You need to ride more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanDoughnuts Posted April 28, 2021 Share 700g for a cassette .... that is one heavy cassette, even for ebike standards DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted April 28, 2021 Share 90% of my riding is done indoors . Still need to up your mileage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWhitehead Posted April 28, 2021 Share The mileage referred to was for a month (ya right) Still need to up your mileage... Long Wheel Base and TNT1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted April 28, 2021 Share So basically Shimano is launching more parts they can't deliver Eldron and ChrisF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted April 28, 2021 Share So basically Shimano is launching more parts they can't deliverSerious question... Why do you hate Shimano? I'm genuinely interested as you seem to slate their products at every opportunity. I mean, on a hardtail trail bike these make sense. I don't want a super light groupo. I want something that will last as it's a 3rd bike and built for hooning. I am genuinely interested though in your hatred of Shimano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted April 28, 2021 Share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NiBzz9mp8 Seems it more directed at the ebike market? Make sense. Parts were designed for normal human power range - not the extra 50% that ebike riders can muster. Me rida my bicycle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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