DJuice Posted June 18, 2021 Share 2 hours ago, Danger Dassie said: Not sure what industry you're in, but try to source, manufacture and get a product to market, especially now, especially in SA. The bike industry isn't the only one facing this problem. For an emerging economy like SA this will always be a challenge, we have a volatile currency so no matter what it's difficult enough to manage supply chain along with exchange rate on trading currencies like the dollar. On top of that we're a relatively small market on balance compared to a lot of other markets. All things considered the bike industry SA actually does ok with supply and pricing, often despite itself . There is value and we are a resilient market with growth potential and we manage to punch above our weight somehow. We also have better choice options than a lot of other markets. DD, I am a desk jockey, fondling a "som pomp" for a living and dreaming about riding endless trails one day when my ship sails in. My experience is export farming, export raisins, solar park development, few product agencies and even a bike shop. Probably just a moan gat this morning. dasilvarsa and Danger Dassie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted June 18, 2021 Share Anyone in any industry that is trying to compare YoY prices on anything in 2021 is wasting their time. Everything from raw materials to manufacture, production, shipping, distribution and demand are on opposite ends of the scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted June 18, 2021 Share 39 minutes ago, WrightJnr said: Anyone in any industry that is trying to compare YoY prices on anything in 2021 is wasting their time. Everything from raw materials to manufacture, production, shipping, distribution and demand are on opposite ends of the scale. comparing YoY for anything right now is silly. I keep seeing YoY comparisons to sales in the car industry and I shake my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted June 18, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, ouzo said: comparing YoY for anything right now is silly. I keep seeing YoY comparisons to sales in the car industry and I shake my head. Problem is the only thing most of us can measure YoY is our salaries!!! And that’s a sad one. Wannabe, CdT85, DieselnDust and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasilvarsa Posted June 20, 2021 Share Provisional Pricing and Specs. New Frame Across the Range. https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/pre-orders?fbclid=IwAR0s2TFg1lykXvT1Josm3-G16EnmhBaCJbdMVwVyepAptxw591SBzdGNbE4 Edited June 20, 2021 by dasilvarsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted June 20, 2021 Share GLAD to see SHIMANO being used (on this model) - https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/pre-orders/products/scott-spark-960-2022 Mark James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrJohan Posted June 20, 2021 Share Would like to demo ride one when its in SA Mark James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark James Posted June 20, 2021 Share 55 minutes ago, dasilvarsa said: Provisional Pricing and Specs. New Frame Across the Range. https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/pre-orders?fbclid=IwAR0s2TFg1lykXvT1Josm3-G16EnmhBaCJbdMVwVyepAptxw591SBzdGNbE4 O my OMG!! Sitting here drooling all over my keyboard ???? Pricing looks "fair", and not that different to previous year 2021 models. I am guessing there will be a lot of eager buyers putting their names down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spafsack Posted June 20, 2021 Share Tnx for this, interesting reading...bit worried, paying almost 50k for a bike which weighs almost 15kg. They all do look frikken sick though, awesome. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark James Posted June 20, 2021 Share 16 minutes ago, Spafsack said: Tnx for this, interesting reading...bit worried, paying almost 50k for a bike which weighs almost 15kg. They all do look frikken sick though, awesome. Agreed!! R50k is still bucket loads of cash to pay for a 15kg bike, but compared to similar offering from the likes of Specialized or some of the other brands, I still think their pricing looks surprisingly competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spafsack Posted June 20, 2021 Share I guess that's why second hand makes for sense nowadays.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 21, 2021 Share 15Kg for a XCO/Downcountry/whatchumacallit bike... :bigeyes:???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipV Posted June 21, 2021 Share 4 hours ago, DieselnDust said: 15Kg for a XCO/Downcountry/whatchumacallit bike... :bigeyes:???? Add some pinches of salt to that. According to their website my bike (Genius 950) weighs 14.5. Maybe for a small, without pedals and no sealant But my XL with a liberal amount of sealant weighs 15.7kg. Edited June 21, 2021 by PhilipV DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 21, 2021 Share 6 hours ago, PhilipV said: Add some pinches of salt to that. According to their website my bike (Genius 950) weighs 14.5. Maybe for a small, without pedals and no sealant But my XL with a liberal amount of sealant weighs 15.7kg. but the Genius is a 150mm travel bike.... I think Nino's Swiss neutrality has come to an end because he's riding a tank into battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spafsack Posted June 21, 2021 Share D, do you think it's that bad for Nino...should the new bike be lighter, still think new technology must be lighter than old technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 21, 2021 Share I don't know whats going on with Nino. This new bike does appear heavier across the range. I would have expected it to be lighter than its predecessor since the shock is now internal and therefore a lot of the reinforcement around mounting lugs is no longer needed. It appears that they need to add weight to the frame to get it stiffer and stronger. The top of the line frame is in the ball park so Nino doesn't have this excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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