DieselnDust Posted September 13, 2021 Share Is your chainring not worn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droo Posted September 13, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, ouzo said: ok, so the verdict is then to clean off excess for now. thanks, thats quick enough to do this evening. Still concerned about it being slightly noisier than the chain I took off, but that could be drivetrain wear. Although the sound is about the same as when I had the original KMC chain on Growling under load? Probably chainsuck. Look at the bottom of your chainring while riding up a hill, if it's not letting go you'll see the bottom of the chain flapping around. Usually goes away after a few rides, if not then replace your chainring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted September 13, 2021 Share 7 minutes ago, droo said: Growling under load? Probably chainsuck. Look at the bottom of your chainring while riding up a hill, if it's not letting go you'll see the bottom of the chain flapping around. Usually goes away after a few rides, if not then replace your chainring. No, chain is just not quiet passing over the teeth on the gears. had it with the original KMC chain, when I changed to the last SRAM it went away. but that last SRAM was sold to me because it was noisy on the previous owners bike, previous owner gave it a good clean before selling to me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVB 21 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Clean first and then pit on chain lube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstV8 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Don't ever wash/clean away the OEM's lube that is put into the chain by the manufacturer. Using a wet or dry lube is your choice but that is all that's needed during its life . DieselnDust and dasilvarsa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted September 14, 2021 Share 16 hours ago, FirstV8 said: Don't ever wash/clean away the OEM's lube that is put into the chain by the manufacturer. Using a wet or dry lube is your choice but that is all that's needed during its life . Where do you get the OEM lube from, because it sure as... doesn't stay on a chain for the life of the chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermophage Posted September 14, 2021 Share 21 hours ago, openmind said: I have slowly become convinced that Squirt is the best for a MTB chain - one of the most efficient (low drag) drip-on lubes on the market and it repels dirt sufficiently well that grit stays out of the chain (and it's local!). BUT: they are very clear that you have to strip the chain of factory grease first to get these benefits AND you need to lube your chain after your ride, not just before the next one. I assume that it is good enough at getting where it needs to go as I find that with this routine, I get clean, long-lasting chains. For my road bike however, I still use an oil (Finishline wet) - maybe I'm a traditionalist, but it just feels right, and with care (not too much; clean often) drivetrains last nearly forever. Not a fan of Squirt. Some methodical testing kinda shows some reasons why: But yes...new chain. Rag with degreaser and remove excess lube....done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trashy Posted September 14, 2021 Share 35 minutes ago, Thermophage said: Not a fan of Squirt. Some methodical testing kinda shows some reasons why: But yes...new chain. Rag with degreaser and remove excess lube....done I'm actually very happy using Squirt after watching this... Koos Likkewaan, Dusty and dasilvarsa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermophage Posted September 14, 2021 Share 3 minutes ago, Trashy said: I'm actually very happy using Squirt after watching this... Interesting....And I am happy using the MucOff ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasilvarsa Posted September 14, 2021 Share Never Wash a Chain, Just Clean the Outside with an Oily Rag. If you Wash a Chain by Mistake Soak it in 5w30 for a couple of hours. Squirt is very good if you Clean and lube the chain after every ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted September 14, 2021 Share Some light reading on the matter: https://cyclingtips.com/2018/05/chain-cleaning-and-maintenance-how-to/ I am an ultra sonic clean and lube kinda guy myself but each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted September 14, 2021 Share Opinions on how to maintain a chain are like ...holes ???? ChUkKy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted September 14, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, Thermophage said: Not a fan of Squirt. Some methodical testing kinda shows some reasons why: But yes...new chain. Rag with degreaser and remove excess lube....done Those are pretty random and scienceless tests - especially for the dry lubes.... DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIPEOUT 1000 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Personally I think the grease supplied with the chain is simply there to protect from rust & corrosion. It useless from a friction perspective and it attracts dirt like nothing else. I would clean the chain ASAP and lubricate with whatever you think works. Personally I use hot wax on my chains and because it's a little more complicated than using normal lube I rotate my chains. It is really easy with the right chain (in my case Connex chains by Wipperman.) If correctly applied hot wax is by far the most efficient chain lubricant. However, I think the main benefit from my perspective is improved chain life which also has a direct impact on the life of the rest of the drivetrain. For reference, I have done more than 18 000 km’s on the 2 chains I currently rotate and both are still within 0.1% elongation, measured over the total length of the chain. Edited September 14, 2021 by WIPEOUT 1000 Martin PJ and dasilvarsa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted September 14, 2021 Share 4 hours ago, Thermophage said: Not a fan of Squirt. Some methodical testing kinda shows some reasons why: But yes...new chain. Rag with degreaser and remove excess lube....done Yes but that's not fair test of Squirt. It's not designed to be used that way. Read the instructions. One is supposed to let it dry overnight and then give it a second layer and let it dry again. How can one place any credence on a test that doesn't use the product the way it was designed to be used? All he had to do was read the label on the bottle! And BTW, I'm not a huge Squirt fan. Sid the Sloth, ChUkKy and Eldron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermophage Posted September 14, 2021 Share 4 minutes ago, MudLark said: Yes but that's not fair test of Squirt. It's not designed to be used that way. Read the instructions. One is supposed to let it dry overnight and then give it a second layer and let it dry again. How can one place any credence on a test that doesn't use the product the way it was designed to be used? All he had to do was read the label on the bottle! And BTW, I'm not a huge Squirt fan. I know, he specifically mentions all that as well. At least it is a set of somewhat standardised tests to compare things. And let's be fair...the vast majority of Squirt users are not going to use it strictly as per instructions in any case. Even with all the care Squirt still packs on *** in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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