Jay F Posted October 28, 2021 Share I may be deviating slightly (from the discussion around the top end model), but having done a LOAD of reading up and comparing of bikes I’m probably going to settle on the Cypher Dash as my first ‘serious’ bike. Can’t find much else at that price Danger Dassie, Jewbacca, eala and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eala Posted October 29, 2021 Share On 10/27/2021 at 7:59 PM, guidodg said: one set of pivots too many on the rear triangle.. Close to Rocky mountain element rear pivot ,optimized for climbing .It works really well DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 29, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, eala said: Close to Rocky mountain element rear pivot ,optimized for climbing .It works really well I tried the 2016 model years ago. Loved it. Back to back against a bianchi methanolFS, it was superb. Comfortable, laterally stiff frame and great handling eala, Hairy and Danger Dassie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 29, 2021 Share 5 hours ago, eala said: Close to Rocky mountain element rear pivot ,optimized for climbing .It works really well Yes, but this is not a fair comparison ... this RM has a lot of red, so is obviously going to be faster! eala, ChrisF, DieselnDust and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 29, 2021 Share 25 minutes ago, Hairy said: Yes, but this is not a fair comparison ... this RM has a lot of red, so is obviously going to be faster! and covered in maple syrup so it will stick to the trail like glue eala, ChrisF and Jay F 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no calves Posted November 2, 2021 Share On 10/27/2021 at 8:44 AM, DJuice said: You are probably 100% correct. Few reviews and comments on forums about same factory, different software. Its so common these days. when doing a big of digging you can find the same titan frame AND Swift's Evil twin frame in south america under different brands. its a case of SELFDE PUDDING ANDER SOUS iff you ask me. Evil Twin Copy is a Sense Invictus https://www.behance.net/gallery/66932029/Sense-Bike-Carbon-Models-2017 Edited November 2, 2021 by no calves Danger Dassie and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJuice Posted November 2, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, no calves said: Its so common these days. when doing a big of digging you can find the same titan frame AND Swift's Evil twin frame in south america under different brands. its a case of SELFDE PUDDING ANDER SOUS iff you ask me. Evil Twin Copy is a Sense Invictus https://www.behance.net/gallery/66932029/Sense-Bike-Carbon-Models-2017 If I recall correct, Swift was bought by a Brazilian company. Danger Dassie and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted November 3, 2021 Share 12 hours ago, no calves said: Its so common these days. when doing a big of digging you can find the same titan frame AND Swift's Evil twin frame in south america under different brands. its a case of SELFDE PUDDING ANDER SOUS iff you ask me. Evil Twin Copy is a Sense Invictus https://www.behance.net/gallery/66932029/Sense-Bike-Carbon-Models-2017 Well yes and no. Titan own their design and there's significant differences to the Swift/Sense, plus Titan's design office (The Forge) is based in Bellville Cape Town. That link actually shows us the correlation between Swift Carbon under the new Brazilian ownership of Sense Bikes, which is around the same time as the buyout and take over of all models and designs. The poster of the images, Gabriel Delfino, is a designer/product manager for them. Mark Hopkins from cSixx in CT has also provided design/prototyping consulting to them in the past. no calves, Hairy, DJuice and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamcliff Posted January 12, 2022 Share On 11/2/2021 at 5:14 PM, no calves said: Its so common these days. when doing a big of digging you can find the same titan frame AND Swift's Evil twin frame in south america under different brands. its a case of SELFDE PUDDING ANDER SOUS iff you ask me. Evil Twin Copy is a Sense Invictus https://www.behance.net/gallery/66932029/Sense-Bike-Carbon-Models-2017 Hi, please can you share a link to the Titan frame? I mean the one you found from a South American brand. Edited January 12, 2022 by Teamcliff Danger Dassie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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