porqui Posted May 16, 2022 Share On 5/13/2022 at 11:09 AM, love2fly said: Ive had my brakes bled and re-bled and even from new they are at best mediocre. And here sir is part of your problem The answer to great brakes is to service and bleed your own brakes Really not difficult and with a bit of practice not messy either. dave303e 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2fly Posted May 16, 2022 Share 19 minutes ago, porqui said: And here sir is part of your problem The answer to great brakes is to service and bleed your own brakes Really not difficult and with a bit of practice not messy either. I've tried bleeding my previous generation Srams and after battling I now use my LBS who knows what he's doing porqui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted May 16, 2022 Share 2 hours ago, TheoG said: OK then. I'm very happy with my 8-9 year old Shitmano XT's, thank you. Have you ever tried SRAM? MTBRIDER1234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted May 16, 2022 Share 4 hours ago, Quagga said: Yes based on many many hours on SRAM and Shimano brakes since 2005 on 5 different bike riding stuff from road to Epic hahahaha how do you know someone has done Epic? Alouette3, gerriemtb, MTBRIDER1234 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted May 16, 2022 Share Choose your favourite brake and be dick about it .... I like hope btw... TheoG and MTBRIDER1234 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoG Posted May 17, 2022 Share 11 hours ago, Quagga said: Have you ever tried SRAM? I actually did, still prefer Shitmano. imho the only instance where SCRAM got it better is AXS vs Di2, and I chose Archer D1x Trial because its much cheaper than both the big names and it "shift everything" .... MTBRIDER1234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted May 17, 2022 Share 24 minutes ago, TheoG said: I actually did, still prefer Shitmano. imho the only instance where SCRAM got it better is AXS vs Di2, and I chose Archer D1x Trial because its much cheaper than both the big names and it "shift everything" .... one thing we do agree on. Archer! TheoG and MTBRIDER1234 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoG Posted May 17, 2022 Share Just now, Quagga said: one thing we do agree on. Archer! Well then, miracles still happen .... 😂 Mtree and Quagga 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2fly Posted June 6, 2022 Share On 5/16/2022 at 5:07 PM, porqui said: And here sir is part of your problem The answer to great brakes is to service and bleed your own brakes Really not difficult and with a bit of practice not messy either. Just some feedback. And thanks Porqui for the suggestion. I found a OEM Sram Bleed Kit at a helluva good price. My last experience was Avid Elixir and the **** Quaxar bleed kit I had. After pi$$ing about 300ml of fluid on my patio I went to the LBS. This time, thanks to Beeding Edge and a decent kit it went much better. I think that to get the best result you have to use a bit of logic and also do the "wash the caliper" step and repeat everything many times - giving it the time and the attention it deserves. The front are as good as they came from Cspe Cycles and the rears better than 2 trips to the LBS. Seems the rear will never be quite the same bite point as the front, maybe due to being further - LBS once said the hose swells a but - dunno about that. Maybe there's some residual air bubbles in the caliper which will exit if I remove the caliper and place the bleeding edge port as the highest point. Thanks again Porqui ' you (at least suggested to the man he should learn to fish)! porqui, MTBRIDER1234, PhilipV and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBRIDER1234 Posted June 6, 2022 Share 5 minutes ago, love2fly said: Just some feedback. And thanks Porqui for the suggestion. I found a OEM Sram Bleed Kit at a helluva good price. My last experience was Avid Elixir and the **** Quaxar bleed kit I had. After pi$$ing about 300ml of fluid on my patio I went to the LBS. This time, thanks to Beeding Edge and a decent kit it went much better. I think that to get the best result you have to use a bit of logic and also do the "wash the caliper" step and repeat everything many times - giving it the time and the attention it deserves. The front are as good as they came from Cspe Cycles and the rears better than 2 trips to the LBS. Seems the rear will never be quite the same bite point as the front, maybe due to being further - LBS once said the hose swells a but - dunno about that. Maybe there's some residual air bubbles in the caliper which will exit if I remove the caliper and place the bleeding edge port as the highest point. Thanks again Porqui ' you (at least suggested to the man he should learn to fish)! Probably gonna get a lot of people disagreeing with me, but I like to bleed avid elexirs, they are simple and always feel lekker after you are done. I kinda dislike bleeding edge, but haven't used it enough to fairly judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2fly Posted June 6, 2022 Share 1 minute ago, MTBRIDER1234 said: Probably gonna get a lot of people disagreeing with me, but I like to bleed avid elexirs, they are simple and always feel lekker after you are done. I kinda dislike bleeding edge, but haven't used it enough to fairly judge. 1 minute ago, MTBRIDER1234 said: Probably gonna get a lot of people disagreeing with me, but I like to bleed avid elexirs, they are simple and always feel lekker after you are done. I kinda dislike bleeding edge, but haven't used it enough to fairly judge. Maybe it would have been easier if the nipple from the Quaxar kit didn't leak at the lever side. I must ad that the DOT51. wasn't an issue. Found that cheap too. MTBRIDER1234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBRIDER1234 Posted June 6, 2022 Share 7 minutes ago, love2fly said: Maybe it would have been easier if the nipple from the Quaxar kit didn't leak at the lever side. I must ad that the DOT51. wasn't an issue. Found that cheap too. Yeah that was probably the problem. Otherwise they are pretty easy to bleed with minimal effort needed. Good to hear that you have learnt a useful new skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2fly Posted June 6, 2022 Share 9 minutes ago, MTBRIDER1234 said: Yeah that was probably the problem. Otherwise they are pretty easy to bleed with minimal effort needed. Good to hear that you have learnt a useful new skill The only issue was the first time I "sucked" at the lever end, the caliper syringe followed but after that I had the help it a tiny bit. Same with fronts but result good. MTBRIDER1234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted June 6, 2022 Share I rode many thousand km on XT/SLX and on Level TL/TLM. Both are good if maintained well, and both a **** if not. You not have to bleed your brakes when they start feeling off, so actually should replace your entire brake fluid every now and then. I like better with Sram that you can take them apart easier and clean the internals if needed. You can also get spare parts. Not so for Shimano, which has always been a mystery to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVERDRIVE Posted June 6, 2022 Share Comparing anything to sram is sacrilege. DNC, MTBRIDER1234 and ChrisF 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2fly Posted June 6, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, SCD said: I rode many thousand km on XT/SLX and on Level TL/TLM. Both are good if maintained well, and both a **** if not. You not have to bleed your brakes when they start feeling off, so actually should replace your entire brake fluid every now and then. I like better with Sram that you can take them apart easier and clean the internals if needed. You can also get spare parts. Not so for Shimano, which has always been a mystery to me. Yip. I shake my head at the fact that Shimano aren't serviceable. MTBRIDER1234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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