News bot Posted June 29, 2022 Share Celebrating its 40th anniversary since its first introduction in 1982, Shimano 105 receives the ultimate upgrade with a move to Di2 electronic shifting technology. The highly anticipated Shimano 105 R7100 group not only delivers Di2 performance to an entirely new range of riders but also offers Shimano’s flagship 12-speed, wireless shifting with easy operation and […]View full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Olckers Posted June 29, 2022 Share Would you buy the new Shimano 105 Di2 12spd? Or just stick to 105 11spd mechanical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Vegmot Posted June 29, 2022 Share Well I think that if I was at all considering Di2, 105 would be the way to go for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted June 29, 2022 Share Already complaints on social media about the price for 105 Di2 which is meant to be the people/workhorse groupset. Also no rim brake version Edited June 29, 2022 by shaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose! Posted June 29, 2022 Share 18 minutes ago, ScottFoil said: Would you buy the new Shimano 105 Di2 12spd? Or just stick to 105 Ultegra 11spd mechanical? 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeisLife Posted June 29, 2022 Share 30 minutes ago, shaper said: Already complaints on social media about the price for 105 Di2 which is meant to be the people/workhorse groupset. Also no rim brake version Rim brake is dying… white tiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmoun10goat Posted June 29, 2022 Share 51 minutes ago, shaper said: Already complaints on social media about the price for 105 Di2 which is meant to be the people/workhorse groupset. Also no rim brake version I know Magura, and I think SRAM both have hydraulic rim brakes. Surely it would not be difficult for Shimano to use the same hydraulic shifters, and equip the system with rim brakes? I feel they are missing a part of the market. It is getting harder/more expensive to find compatible shifters (in the event of them breaking or accident damage) for mechanical gears (without changing derailleurs as the pull ratios change) , so personally I would consider going electronic shifting should I need to replace something, but I can't as my bike is rim brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 29, 2022 Share 4 minutes ago, sirmoun10goat said: I know Magura, and I think SRAM both have hydraulic rim brakes. Surely it would not be difficult for Shimano to use the same hydraulic shifters, and equip the system with rim brakes? I feel they are missing a part of the market. It is getting harder/more expensive to find compatible shifters (in the event of them breaking or accident damage) for mechanical gears (without changing derailleurs as the pull ratios change) , so personally I would consider going electronic shifting should I need to replace something, but I can't as my bike is rim brake. the answer is Campagnolo madmarc and Prince Albert Cycles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 29, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, ScottFoil said: Would you buy the new Shimano 105 Di2 12spd? Or just stick to 105 11spd mechanical? tricky question since it liely won't be in stock till 2024 if current supply is anything to go by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmoun10goat Posted June 29, 2022 Share 4 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: tricky question since it liely won't be in stock till 2024 if current supply is anything to go by So by then SRAM will solar powered, 13sp wireless shifting Titan Racing Bikes and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 29, 2022 Share 37 minutes ago, sirmoun10goat said: I know Magura, and I think SRAM both have hydraulic rim brakes. Surely it would not be difficult for Shimano to use the same hydraulic shifters, and equip the system with rim brakes? I feel they are missing a part of the market. It is getting harder/more expensive to find compatible shifters (in the event of them breaking or accident damage) for mechanical gears (without changing derailleurs as the pull ratios change) , so personally I would consider going electronic shifting should I need to replace something, but I can't as my bike is rim brake. SRAm Hydro+ R brakes here available with the SRAm Red 11s group. They were never brought into SA as far as I know. I enquired about these two years ago. They're weren't very popular but maybe that will change as people hang onto bikes longer. SRAM already made the 12speed AXS shifters and derailleur (?) compatible with the 11s group since the 11speed shifters were discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmoun10goat Posted June 29, 2022 Share 27 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: SRAm Hydro+ R brakes here available with the SRAm Red 11s group. They were never brought into SA as far as I know. I enquired about these two years ago. They're weren't very popular but maybe that will change as people hang onto bikes longer. SRAM already made the 12speed AXS shifters and derailleur (?) compatible with the 11s group since the 11speed shifters were discontinued. Which is what I expect - technically electronic shifting should be compatible over multiple speeds as you aren't restricted by pull ratios of the shifter and derailleur needing to correspond. So that improves overall compatibility. SRAM does also have rim brakes in their AXS range (although the shifters are different to the hydo brakes). I feel Shimano could/should have done more here, and as a (relatively straight forward approach) gone with hydro disks Dexter-morgan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose! Posted June 30, 2022 Share My guess is R43999 ? 👀 for the few sets Coolheat will bring us? 3067.7g - maybe weighted with the shortest possible crank / smallest chainrings , smallest cassette , shortest chain and no hydraulic hoses , no battery holder. I predict the rim brake market will be filled by new players to the groupset market, and Tiagra will go 11 speed soon - (still in rim brake) at R1800 shipped this 11 speed rim partial groupset even makes more sense now Senah Mopkop and quintonb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter-morgan Posted June 30, 2022 Share Lets hope the "old stock" Rim brake Ultegra Di2, goes on sale soon so I can get my hands on a set. ChrisF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnavel Posted June 30, 2022 Share Considering this is meant to be the "workhorse" groupset, the pricing structure is ridiculous and puts it out of the reach of many people. I mean $1400 for a 105 groupset?! 🤢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted June 30, 2022 Share I wouldn't take it if it was free. I'm so fed up with having to charge so many devices and dying batteries as it is anyway. IMHO, if it's analogue and it works well, it's better than anything with a battery that needs charging or replacing. And its more environmentally friendly. But maybe I'm just the grumpus. Edited June 30, 2022 by MudLark Mongoose!, RiverInTheRoad, LBKloppers and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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