widget Posted June 7, 2007 Share .............said today that it will in all likleyhood end its association with Barnje Rijs. "It is the only thing for us to do" said the CEO and we will be requesting he remove our name from all bicycles and material forthwith. ............So as I predicted, they will be SACKING him. As a global company it was all they could do, you simply cannot have a confessed sporting fraudster heading up an operation bearing their name. I wonder if they will still be able to compete in the TDF as the ASO has already said Rijs is not welcome.?? It would be a terrible shame for the riders like Schleck and Sastre who stood a good chance of a high position. .........So Crux, Team TCS may still get a spot on the line, dont stop training yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 7, 2007 Share His sacking was inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted June 7, 2007 Share I guess he can go have a drink with Ivan Basso now and talk about the good old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butafly Posted June 7, 2007 Share maybe the local SA CSC will take their place in the Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widget Posted June 7, 2007 Share I guess he can go have a drink with Ivan Basso now and talk about the good old days. - Yup I can sort of picture it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianni Posted June 7, 2007 Share They can't sack Riis. They can only end their relationshop with his company. I personally believe that it takes people like Riss who cheated the system to make sure that as many doors as possible are closed to the new generation. These people know how to get around the system so they should be part of the whatever new initiative is created to stop / slow down the use of drugs in sport (any sport). e.g like the cops using hackers to get to other hackers etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce Posted June 7, 2007 Share .........So Crux' date=' Team TCS may still get a spot on the line, dont stop training yet.[/quote'] They'll have to get past the Bulk Pack boys first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widget Posted June 7, 2007 Share They can't sack Riis. They can only end their relationshop with his company. I personally believe that it takes people like Riss who cheated the system to make sure that as many doors as possible are closed to the new generation. These people know how to get around the system so they should be part of the whatever new initiative is created to stop / slow down the use of drugs in sport (any sport). e.g like the cops using hackers to get to other hackers etc etc etc Its pretty much the same thing Gianni - sacked, end our relationship,............... "hey" we didnt sack you......we just "ended our relationship with you".! The fact that he is out on his ear is what matters, and I for one believe he deserves it. Its a fair point you make regarding investigation, however CSC s point of view would be, this is a business for us not a crime prevention operation. Rijs can be recruited by another organisation to do exactly that, and it may well be feasible, but CSC is not in the business of preventing dope usage and sport fraud, and I doubt thwy would want to have their name linked there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianni Posted June 7, 2007 Share [ Its pretty much the same thing Gianni - sacked' date= end our relationship,............... "hey" we didnt sack you......we just "ended our relationship with you".! The fact that he is out on his ear is what matters, and I for one believe he deserves it. Its a fair point you make regarding investigation, however CSC s point of view would be, this is a business for us not a crime prevention operation. Rijs can be recruited by another organisation to do exactly that, and it may well be feasible, but CSC is not in the business of preventing dope usage and sport fraud, and I doubt thwy would want to have their name linked there either. [/quote] I didn't mean it was CSC's job to prevent doping. What I meant was that there are some people laughing at the fact that he will not be involved in cycling and I think that there's a missed opportunity there. His TEAM was one of the few apparently interested in fighting the whole doping thing. He will get another main sponsors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widget Posted June 7, 2007 Share Fair enough Gianni. ..........and yes I agree CSC did appear to be making the right noises, but unfortunately there exists a credibility and an integrity gap here which will certainly be an issue. Rijs may well find another sponsor, but I dont think it will be soon. Not too many Major global companies would be willing to have that mill stone dragged around with them right now - personally I think its over for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted June 7, 2007 Share Is that why Riis and the team were in SA? Looking for some "enhancements" from african medicine men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted June 7, 2007 Share What I would like to see happening with these guys is that they have to return ALL prizemoney and sponsorship money acquired from cycling if caught doping. Returning the jersey is no harsh punishment you can get a new one at the flea market. Hurt the back pocket and then let us see who really wants to dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtbCpt Posted June 7, 2007 Share But that might stop them from coming forward in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Andreou Posted June 7, 2007 Share This is a dark moment for cycling. Can CSC afford not to have the TDF exposure for their brand. What will win out moral indignation or capitalism.Can't see the sponsorship lasting past this year though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big H Posted June 7, 2007 Share WHAT!!!!! Do you guys mean he killed that BEAUTIFULL Springbuck with a high powered hunting rifle during the teams "KAMP STAALDRAAD" in the Karoo for nothing....... Dick Pound is NOTHING compared to the greenies and bunny huggers with their bambi complex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted June 7, 2007 Share But that might stop them from coming forward in the first place? Cpt...let's put it this way. Riijs is now out of cycling for good as a millionaire, his millions made from the sport of cycling. He has proved to be dishonest, I am sure we all agree on this and the same applies to all the others who have admitted or been caught. Now if you are caught stealing cash at work, firstly criminal charges are laid against you and your employer seeks to recover the stolen cash from you. So why does the same not apply in cycling, the guys who cheat by doping it up are effectively stealing money from the corporates who sponsor the events. I know in some cases criminal charges are laid against the riders but the money is not given back. As with today Riijs is only required to give back his jersey - big deal as earlier stated he can go buy another one at the flea market. Tell him he needs to pay back the Million Francs he won and then see him squirm. Point is yes they may not admit they took drugs but the fear of having to come up with a million Euros maybe 10 years down the line when it has been prooved you were a druggie will certainly go a long way to stopping doping in cycling IMHO. Let's face it this is entirely possible, all it takes is one disgruntled doctor or team mate to spill the beans and the **** hits the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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