Geez, you are a man on a mission, just hope you have a bit more diplomacy when YOU get the mtbsurfer treatment from other users wondering why every request to maintain is not met with a resounding yes from the landowner. - I am just voicing my opnion, am i not entitled to do that ? I have only had one request. What is the difference to the landowner with regards to approvals if the trail is damaged or repaired? Surely they want the trails to be repaired ? I think I answered your query earlier; why are there only DH build days? Because it had to be done, why do you persist with eroding the collective efforts of those actually making a difference, but making the very comments you complain of? - I understand about the last build day on the DH track. I don't see how requesting badly needed maintenace is "eroding your collective efforts" Makes me wonder how much you understand of what we have achieved? I cannot speak for Jonkers, but Tokai has seen the biggest change in perception since MTB was officially included in the SANParks activity. There have only ever been two VIP's with unrestricted vehicle access allowed in Tokai, one is Working for Water, the other is mountainbiking.. this was finally granted in August. Does this alone not show progress.. Is the short sightedness in your comments really how you want to be remembered? - I'm sure one of the main reasons that perceptions of mountain bikers has changed in the past years is due to the massive increase in numbers of riders and wild card/mtb pass sales. I don't feel that my comments are shortsighted at all. Let's look at the downhillers and the downhill trail. In the short space of time, I was able to convince the Park authorities to keep the trail open even though the requirements of the sport goes against what is considered sustainable. Then the downhillers themselves. The activity of motivating the trail required that the downhiller get themselves sorted. They needed to reign in all unauthorised builders, assist in closing unauthorised trails and create a group for effective communication that would show the cohesion within a sub-community. This small group has always received the the short end of the stick, XC riders inconsiderately rode up their only trail and vehemently defended their actions. Now we have a one way system in place suggested by the downhillers, motivated by me and approved by Parks. - I agree with this and am not arguing this point. xc riders should not ride up downhill trails. Add to all this we have the FIRST purpose built track that has ever been built in Tokai. Not a trail developed through constant use as we have in our legacy. Trails we are stuck with until the scoping process is completed, one that comes at a price of no less that R120 000. This will be the document that proves we are oversubscribed and determines among many things, new trails.. oh and it will apply to other riding areas on Table mountain. But of course you know all this because you have taken the time to read around on the hub and stay informed before making clever comments.. - I don't need to read a forum to see what is going on in Tokai regarding the quality of the trails and number of people riding them, my comments are justified and any one can see that more effort has been put into the DH tracks in the last 6 months than anywhere else in tokai. I was not requesting a whole network of new trails at a huge expense and approval nightmare, just maintenance of exisiting trails.This has come up in conversation many a time with fellow riders who are all of the same opinion. - I also feel that your comments are condescending. If we have been able to achieve all this since June, can you imagine what is coming for the XC track??
