Hi guys. I want to get some opinions on the Stan's ZTR Flow Ex rims built onto Hope Hubs vs American Classic Wide Lightnings. I know the AC Wide Lightnings weighs around 1569 including rim tape, which is ridiculously low seeing that they're 29mm wide internally. I don't know what Hope Pro 2 Evo + ZTR Flows weigh, but it's not really the weight that will get my attention. How is the AC hub compared to a Hope Hub? How much maintenance would the two require? I'm around 107kgs and not at all a contender in any race, but would really like a wheel where the tyre does not roll over the rim and where it can handle my weight. I want the Toyota Hilux of bikes.. Which wheels would that be? Please also include any other contenders, the aim is value for money, not the best looking wheel that fails after a couple of rides... For now (and I'll keep a pro/con list updated) ZTR Flow + Hope: Pro - More options visibly, due to AMC only being available in brownish on blackHope's hub, which is known for ease of servicing and durabilityPriced R6499 (if same price as Crest or Arch Ex)No rider weight limitCon - I presume they will be heavier than Wide LightningHand built somewhere which may or may not be stronger than the mass produced Wide Lightnings25mm internal width1871g (only an issue if you're a weight weenie)Unknown - All adapters cheap and could be includedWarranty (if any) American Classic Wide Lightning: Pro - Tubeless tape installedTubeless valves installed1512g per setInternal width of > 29mm!!! Con - Not available as rim onlyOnly brownish on black rim available which may not match the rest of your bikeOnly available as a wheelset, thus no other hubs availableDifficult to source in SA, particularly at a discount to RRPMore flex than Flow, particularly if you're a heavier riderComplaints of slow freehub engagement on older setsSome complaints about the rim being dented easily, however where this happened it did not affect ride quality Additional items - Adaptability - Qr, 15mm, 20mm, 142 vs 135 unknown107kg rider weight limit No rider weight limit I have to put a disclaimer here, this is just things I think I know, not facts, and the purpose of this thread is to get input into ANY wheelset that can match this weight/durability at the most affordable price. Again, we're looking for the aftermarket wheelset that matches most fatties or intermediate riders that wants bulletproof wheels at the best bang for buck. If you feel there's other wheelsets I need to include, list them and I'll read up on them a bit...
