Wow, lots of help! Yeah, wasn't thinking 17k exactly but for 20k the Titan 2019 model has a warranty I believe. I assume some of the silverback options do too. I was going with the impression that carbon would be the first priority at this price bracket. Is this not the case? Nice disc brakes would be great . Unfortunately I'm in Cape Town, so that would be a bit of a headache - no? Looks great, but also not in Cape Town. Ah yeah, the consensus seems to be the against the Swift - too bad, I liked the styling.