RossTopher

hi Brian, while its not the most common bike out there, i can give you the following info: the model is actually the Revelator Lisse, Master is the mid-tier frame and components. the price depends more on the rest of the bike that the frame, what year model is it, is it rim or disc-brake, whats the condition like. having said that, 50,000 looks VERY high, when compared to what i see online. the Prestige is the top of the range with Dura-Ace Di2. there are 2 rim-brake versions, one at cycle lab for 43000, and cash converters for 35000 do you have any photos?

ignoring the rain forecast, when dry, the roads are fairly smooth and fast. no big rocks, a few minor sandy sections, but generally quick, grippy and easy to navigate. (Pathfinder, G-one RS, Cinturato H, Terra Speed, Caracal Race). hell, in the dry, you'd be fine running a 35mm Mondo or Cinturato Velo. the rain will have its own say. I'll be running a Cinturato H rear and M up front, but thats all i run... i'm not going to win, so i'm not going to overcomplicate bike riding.

its a fantastic bike, Guy. will certainly fit the need on the trainer. my friend has one and has been so happy with it, save for a few groupset issues: 46/36 is a peculiar combination - gearing neither high or low enough for any sigle purpose (i gave him an FSA Omega 38/32). 11-28 cassette is criminal for a gravel bike. the microshift RD maxes on a 30t cassette - he got it sorted on a 34 with an extender, but it basically disintegrated over time, and does not handle the rough stuff - replaced with a 105 RD.

I've never tried the model you have. Maybe it's different, but bet even if you downgrade to the Skull, you'll be happy.

If I were you, I'd take them back, maybe you got a dud in that department. I've got 7 bibs across 3 different styles (skull, suupaa, and an unlauched cargo style that came in as a sample) , dont shave my legs, and none have gripper issues. I'm 188cm and 100kg and have L, XL and XXL, purely from getting what was on sale and they all fit well.

i'd love it if iKhambi could get some test units out for people to actually give real world feedback, rather than us all hang on the word of an outdated early version review. I have no horse in the race, i love my Wahoo, but i have been keen to try one, and recommended a friend buy one, and if he doesnt like it, i'll swap him my wahoo. at R7k for all those features, its a score. i think we need to be a bit more critical of these reviewers. DCR and GPlama are the main voices in this realm, but they need to do better in terms of updating their reviews. his thoughts are nearly a year old on what i understand was a pre-release device. a quick google shows that there have been numerous updates, and the video text states "COROS won’t have a more stable firmware until tomorrow (June 18th, a day after this announcement), and even then, it sounds like many of the issues I’ve raised will take weeks or longer to sort out... Point being, this IS NOT a review. That’ll come at some point down the road, likely in early July, or whenever they end up start shipping units (now slated for July 15th)." - as far as i can tell, he never updated his views post this. for instance, some early testers had an issue with the quarter turn tab, Coros immmediately revised it and they seem to actually consume user feedback and release updates and enhancements, rather than apply "Garmins take it or leave it" approach. i know various wahoos and the early hammerheads had issues, and their companies released updates, we could have written them off and all be using garmin.

for that kind of money, they should be accommodating, see if they can set it up on a trainer, or let you take it out for a ride (maybe put a security deposit down). bikemarket used to rent bikes out, so chat to them and see what your options are. i think many of us are negative towards them because of the webuybicycles sharks lowballing us, but the guys in the shop are decent and should be able to give you advice to make a good decision. at the end of the day, the forums can only get you so far. personally, i wouldnt rush a purchase at such an amount, and it needs to be absolutely right, you dont want to be needing to spend to make it fit. if your heart flutters at the sight of it, thats key. you will know if it fits after an hour on the bike. ps: canyon dont do a "52" so is it a small and what is your height, and what size is the Treviso? always helps to take someone experienced with you who can critique how you look on the bike - it is pretty easy to spot fit issues.

ja, i wasnt going into every price bracket, and the Roam is in that *general* range. 35-50k is a shedload. and you're still getting iffy parts on many of them. my point holds.

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i am currently on the look out for gravel/allroad bikes for a couple of friends and its a sad state of affairs in SA. We are being absolutely ripped, we have no options unless you're spending 70k+. There is nothing below 20 other than the Avalanche Dust (a lovely bike), or that green monster titan. the used market is dire. The fact that the Roam is "super competitive in pricing" is a damning indictment. PS: a few of us discussed the Roam in the general thread:

Just in case its misconstrued, its not necessarily a bad thing, provided it's your bike, and you know it fits. Most of us cut our steerers, but when we know how our bike fits and we accept it impacts resale somewhat. When buying a used bike, if you don't have spacers, you have no height adjustability on stem positioning. It means if the bikes too big, or too low, you'll have to fit an overly short, or crazy angled stem on.

100% back what Chris said. Looking at options, do you mind sharing your height etc. I know you said endurance road bike. The valerian certainly isn't endurance, and the category is hard to cover these days (domane, endurace, defy, roubaix ans Scultura endurace are few and far between) What about this... I've beeb ogling it for ages but I'm way too big for it: https://bruces.co.za/products/merida-reacto-4000-carbon-2022 Unless you are set on disc brake. You save yourself a whackload, get a brand new bike, and go for some lush wheels when you feel you need/deserve them. It's a stunning looking thing. Plus 11 speed parts are just a bit cheaper to replace

I presume it's the one on bikemarket? If so, I'd highly recommend you inspect it in person. Chain seems nearly done, as do the chainrings. Steerer is cut, so you've gotta know that's your fit, and it will impact resale. Price is VERY good considering the wheels, so factor that in. Skepticism is key. If you're set on canyon, and dont have an issue riding a "womans" bike... I'd go for this. I've seen it at the store and it loos mint condition. Plus you get the fancy seat post https://canyoncafe.co.za/products/canyon-ultimate-wmn-cf-8-small I think size is the same? wheels are a downgrade but save you won't have drivetrain costs. If you're not 100% confident on the bike, shallower wheels are better. There are some other good options out there for the price. Check some of the trek deals (gear change has some on closeout). A few great deals on merida reactos and sculturas out there

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It was bloody brilliant. Great route, a tough climb, excellent venue and organisation. Some lovely touches for the entrants. There were only about 70 entrants across the 4 categories We started with about a 14km neutral zone, they got some photos in, and then those who wanted to race, could. 50% tar, smooth gravel, great quiet roads. The pace up front was insane, so I got spat out early doors. it finished at the top of bothmaskloof with a 4km neutral zone, my end time back to the venue was 3.36. i slogged up a 5km climb around the 75km mark and up bothmas. winner came in just under 3 hours. a fantastic day out