Thanks Guys, this does help alot. Once i know what these riders are doing for the 100km rides, then I can better decide whether Im fast enough for the bunch, or whether I would create havoc. Also will check on the rules applicable before registering as a "Racer" To be quiet honest i fancy the earlier starting times, and found myself riding alone alot in my current seeding as it appears not many in the BL/CL groups form fast pelatons, however in saying this, safety is of paramount importance and once "qualified" I will begin looking at upgrading my license. Thanks again!