To answer a few questions... Full retail price is NZ$4500. Thats frame, shock, gearbox, shifter, tensioner, sprockets.... so you save on a bit of other stuff. As I said, if you are genuinely interested in a frame get i touch and i'll figure out a price. As i said, keen to get some bikes over your way. BB is 83mm. I want to do an AM bike... takes time and money! working on it. Cheers Rob