Bob, thanks for the reply. I hope it cleared the situation up for some people. My 2cents 1. If you are a poster on this topic that contributed money , thanks. 2. If you ride the trails without commenting, I hope it is enjoyable for you as it is for us, but please refrain from making this into a branding/coffee shop issue. It is not. It is about making it We have contributed for the past few years and we do not begrudge those riding the trails without contributing. Please read what Bob said:"..... goals were always positive and focussed on creating a superb trail network in Stellenbosch." It is not "our" trails, it remains Jonkershoek/Stellenbosch trails. It is unfair that Scott and the Jonkershoek coffee shop are benefitting and not being willing to make some sort of contribution Gxcho!