Madz and Waldo Hi ya :-) simple way to find out if you strong, last race what was your time ? I am pretty strong but i have had a lazy week and i am not as strong as of the guys out there.. Myself Argus 4:00 and West Coast Express 2:25 Waldoz, if the groups are large enough, I am sorry but I would like to move forward, But if we all are on similar fitness levels. Lets try stick together, especially considering the wind factor, its going to be very bad if you out there riding alone..