my freind everybody yata,yata,yata. a wheel that you can use for training and racing should definitly be a clincher. so the best all round aero carbon clincher REYNOLDS. a good climbing wheel and for flats. good weight, can take any rider weight and the price is perfect 13000.00 on top of everything it looks good too. I use to weigh in at 115kg and used the wheel for everyday. I now weigh 90 and have handed the wheels over to my 17year old who is racing in the league and the wheels is giving him good performance.