Agteros Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 This is specifically addressed to the organisers of the Northerns Quickie, as well as Central Gauteng Cycling (I think Terrence lurks on here...) The race has been listed as a MTB seeding event by SASeeding. They insist that the organisers of the event must send the data through to them so they can use it. Now... The telephone number on the downloaded CyclingSA calendar is either not answered, or answered by somebody who pretends not to listen. (Just going "hello! hello!') I've tried contacting CGC as well, however their number rings a few times and then disconnects the line. Questions:Who do we speak to w.r.t. the seeding status of eventsWho takes responsibility for an event being (or not) a seeding event.What liability is there if an event was listed by SAS as a seeding event, and it turns out not to be used as one?Who owns the seeding process?Can I get my entry fee back if an event was entered for seeding purposes, and its results are not used? In short, who is responsible for cycling in Central Gauteng(Gauteng in future?), as it actually seems a bit shambolic at the moment! SASeeding/CGC, will the same head aches be experienced for the Country Challenge results? http://www.saseeding.co.za/News/DisplayNewsItem.aspx?niid=11277 2012 SAS Events 23-Sep-2011 Supplied by Carla du Preez from SA Seeding Events that will influence your SAS Race Index. SAS EVENT = Permanent SAS BOARDS will be used, Seeding based on National Ri and Batches per distance. SAS FRIENDLY = You can use your SAS Board for this race. Results will be uploaded and will count towards your National Ri. No Seeding or Batches at this specific race. December 2011 Sat 17 Rock Pedal Classic York Street, George, Western Cape SAS FRIENDLY January 2012 Sat 21 Redstone Crazy Croc Redstone, Hartebeespoort, North West SAS FRIENDLY Sat 28 MTN Barberton XCM #1 Barberton High School, Mpumalanga SAS EVENT Sat 28 NISSAN Barberton 1/2 Marathon #1 Barberton High School, Mpumalanga SAS EVENT February 2012 Sat 4-5 The Herald VW Cycle Tour Addo Polo Club, Eastern Cape, www.heraldcycletour.co.za SAS FRIENDLY Sat 11 Vori-berg MTB Series # 1 Wildebeesthoek, Gauteng (www.waterpoint.co.za) SAS FRIENDLY Sat 18 MTN Tulbagh XCM #2 Saronsberg Wine Estate, Tulbagh, Western Cape SAS EVENT Sat 18 NISSAN Tulbagh 1/2 Marathon#2 Saronsberg Wine Estate, Tulbagh, Western Cape SAS EVENT Fr 24 - 26 Bridgestone Route 69 MTB Challeng Valverde, van Gaalens, Maropeng SAS COMPATIBLE Sat 25 MTN Sabie XCM #3 York Timbers, Sabie, Mpumalanga SAS EVENT Sun 26 NISSAN Sabie 1/2 Marathon #3 York Timbers, Sabie, Mpumalanga SAS EVENT Sat 24-2 Garden Route 300 Knysna 201 Knysna. www.gardenrouteevents.co.za SAS FRIENDLY March 2012 Sa 3 Military Misile MT Gauten SAS FRIENDLY Sat 17 Wolhuterskop Nature Reserve Multi Sport Day (oujong@gmail.com) , Freestate SAS FRIENDLY Sa 24 Lake Umuzi Cosmos 3-in-1 MTB Challenge,Mpumalanga SAS FRIENDLY Ma 16-18 Star Gazer 3 Night Stage Rac Montagu, Western Cape (http://www.makadasadventures.co.za) SAS FRIENDLY Su 18 Northerns Quickie MTB Race 201 Muldersdrift, Gauten SAS FRIENDLY (TEMP BOARDS WILL BE GIVEN) Su 18 Fat Tracks Scott Ayton Memorial Rac KZN (www,fattracks.co.za) SAS FRIENDLY We 21 Babba's MTB Relay Bultfontein Gauteng North SAS FRIENDLY Sa 31 Sappi Mankele MTB Challenge Mankele, Sudwala, Mpumalang SAS FRIENDLY Sa 31 Military Misile MTB 2012 Event # Military Sports Grounds , Thaba Tsawe SAS FRIENDLY April 2012 Su 01 Boxlee Golovane Xplore KZN, ROAG SAS FRIENDLY Su 8 Country Challenge Lapeng Hotel, Walkerville, Midvaal, Gauten SAS COMPATIBLE Sat 14 Rooiberg MTB Challenge Jakkalsdans Hotel, Rooiberg, Limpopo SAS FRIENDLY Fr 20 Mr Price Classic Karkloof SAS Friendly Sa 21 Overland Challenge De Bos Guest Farm, Montagu , Western Cape (http://www.makadasadventures.co.za) SAS FRIENDLY Sa 21 Vori-Berg MTB Series # Wildebeesthoek, Gauten SAS FRIENDLY Su 29 Big 5 plus 1 Super Series # 3 Babba's Lodge Bultfontein Gauteng North SAS FRIENDLY
Guest Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 When I wanted to use my SAS board for the Northerns Quickie, I was told "No", but they will link my ID nr to my SAS seeding afterwards.. nothing yet...
Agteros Posted April 16, 2012 Author Posted April 16, 2012 Yep, seems like SAS friendly means temp boards (Northerns Quickie), and SAS Compatible means you can use your own permanent number board (Country Challenge) I spoke to Carla on 28/29 March and she stated that they(SAS) are waiting for the organiser. Now the number on the CSA events calender seems to be just a random, incorrect number. So where is the responsibility and what recourse do we have? The only reason I entered either event was to try a resuscitate my seeding (a 62 at the moment ) before the Nissan Series. If they are not going to use these events for seeding, I seriously want my money back!
Team SL Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) When I wanted to use my SAS board for the Northerns Quickie, I was told "No", but they will link my ID nr to my SAS seeding afterwards.. nothing yet... Karma, As race organiser for the Vori-Berg i submit the race results with ID number to SAS for seeding purposes.I also use my own number boards, the reason for this is that i can then establish if all riders have returned.So far we have not had any problems except for a youngster doing the 15 km and demanding his seeding be updated as he won. bad news for him is that it is only 30km and higher that benefit. look forward to seeing you guys at Vori-berg soon Edited April 16, 2012 by Team SL
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