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Italian bike brand Pinarello has launched a new bike to replace its chart topping F8 and no, it doesn’t include disc brakes.

 

 

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With such a radical change in design from the Pinarello Dogma 65.1 to the Pinarello Dogma F8 we expected some big changes from the Italian brand for the F10. However it is a little more subtle this time around with the new Dogma from a side profile at least, looking very similar to its predecessor.

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Pinarello looked to enhance four main properties of the Dogma instead of giving it a complete overhaul. Maintain same handling, increase stiffness, reduce air drag and possibly what we wanted to see most, reduce weight.

Concave down tube

The down tube generates more then 15 per cent of the overall drag and directly effects how the air reacts around the bottles and seat tube.

Pinarello claims to have not only reduced drag from the reworked down tube but also around the bottle cages too, working a local drag reduction of around 12 per cent.

The Shimano junction box (pictured below) sits here too (called E-Link), to help aerodynamics by cleaning up the frontal area around the handlebar and stem. Cables have been routed internally too.

Modified fork

Using data and developments from the Bolide time trial bike, Pinarello discovered it could reduce the forks drag by up to 10 per cent by simply adding fins to the trailing edge of the drop out.

However, on the F10 these are smaller in size compared to the Bolide mainly as a compromise between aerodynamics and weight.

 
Frame

The F10 still uses Pinarello’s asymmetry concept, which has been in development since 2009. This basically means Pinarello increases the size on the right hand side of the bottom bracket and reduces the left, which helps increases stiffness and balance.

It has also ‘moved’ this even further to the right to increase performance. The same carbon has been used too. Torayca T1100 1K is used again, the only difference is that Pinarello has reworked the position of this expensive carbon based on stresses different parts of the frame endure. T1100 fibres are used in high stress areas for example the down tube.

These small changes have amounted to 6.3 per cent lighter (a claimed 820g raw frame for a 530 size) and a 7 per cent stiffer frameset. Looking at geometry we see no changes here.

F10 wishes

We hope that clearance has been improved with the F8 struggling to fit 25mm tyres on the more common wider rimmed wheels and that the seatpost bolts are more resistant to rust being placed in the worst position just above the rear wheel, which means these bolts see all of the wheel spray in the wet.

Pinarello was one of the first to develop a road bike with all round capabilities that the likes of Team Sky – who helped develop the Dogma – use for most races throughout the year.

The great blend of aerodynamics, light weight with good handling and racing characteristics has helped Team Sky’s Chris Froome to three Tour de France titles.

 

In the time with Team Sky, Pinarello has developed eight road bikes and three time trial bikes with more planned up until its extended sponsorship deal ends in 2020.

Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/product-news/pinarello-launches-new-f10-ahead-2017-season-305866#WHwUdWWtJblyHZv1.99

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They already having issues over copying the down tube from Velocity bikes.

 

 

 

Velocite warns Pinarello of legal proceedings on day of Dogma F10 release 
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Velocite CEO Victor Major has singled out Pinarello in an ongoing patent infringement debate relating to its concave downtube design in an open letter.

In July of 2016, Velocite warned legal action against those infringing its intellectual property. Today’s letter – which comes on the same day as the Dogma F10’s release – pulls no punches in challenging Pinarello’s alleged use of the design on first its Bolide TT, but also on the new flagship.

The letter reads: pinarello.jpg

Dear Pinarello,

I am personally flattered that you like my concave downtube design so much that you used it not only on the Bolide TT frame, but also on the just released Dogma F10 frame. If we had not patented the concave downtube design I would have personally been very flattered that a noted bicycle brand like yours chose to use our design, thus validating the year of development that I personally put into it. Alas, we actually hold three patents on the concave downtube design. One patent is a design patent in China (ZL2015 2 0139826.6), one is a design patent in Taiwan (D 170607) and then there is the main one, an invention patent valid for 20 years also granted in Taiwan (I562931). Both Taiwan and China are signatories to WIPO, just like Italy.

I initially alerted you to this issue in May once I observed our design and associated aerodynamic performance claim on the Bolide TT bike, only to be met with complete silence until July when three members of your engineering team checked out my LinkedIn profile for some reason (July 16th to be exact). They did not talk to me, or anyone in our company. I guess visiting my LinkedIn profile was deemed sufficient.

Our law firm sent you a letter on 21st of July 2016 formally notifying you of our concerns regarding your use of our intellectual property without ever discussing its fair use with us. Your law firm replied on the 4th of August and stated that owing to the long August holidays in Italy that you will be able to reply to us “no earlier than mid of September 2016.” Well it is now January 10th 2017 and there is still no response to our concerns. Instead today you released your second model that uses our intellectual property, the new Pinarello Dogma F10.

I find this personally upsetting, both because this is my personal work that you decided to claim for your own and because we could never establish any meaningful dialogue with you regarding fair, or compensated use of our intellectual property. I could understand that perhaps you used our intellectual property by accident when you made the new Bolide TT. After all finding out who owns what patent is not that simple and in bicycle industry perhaps it is not the norm to investigate the intellectual property space before forging ahead with a new design. However, with the new Dogma F10 your use of our intellectual property is deliberate. You know it belongs to us. You were notified. You chose not to engage with us. What do you expect should happen next?

Thus, I hope that this letter encourages you to at least talk to us about the use of our intellectual property. You can either contact our law firm whose details you have, or you can find me on LinkedIn just like you found me before.

 

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