Hey Brandon, from what I hear You and the powers that be in Probike/Raleigh would give anything to own the rights to Specialized in R.S.A ,so if I were You I wouldn't go around badmouthing their products! Compare apples with apples and not apples with pears! The day Raleigh gets it right to produce a sub 8kg dual suspension MTB then You can talk as big as You like! Specialized have the good reputation they do because of the huge amount of R&D that go into their products. Specialized is one of only 2 Bike manufacturers in the world to have their own wind tunnel and various forms of stress testing equipment. What R&D gets done at Raleigh, may I ask?