This is the first time that Probike's name has been mentioned with regard to the meeting on this forum and thus feel I have to respond. I have posted below the response of Probike sent by myself on 19 September 2008 @ 18h27 to Fritz Pienaar in response to the minutes of the meeting recieved via e mail by Dave Wyatt from Probike. From: Brandon Els [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: 19 September 2008 06:27 PM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Cc: 'Dave Wyatt'; 'email@example.com' Subject: FW: Minutes - margins in the bicycling industry<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Fritz Probike would like to make it clear that we attended the meeting reluctantly. Our company does not agree with the contents of your e mail which implies that dealers must collude to achieve an agreed margin or exclude suppliers. Our company encourages competition amongst wholesalers and retailers. Please take this as our company?s official response to the minutes of the meeting that have been circulated by yourself. Kind Regards <?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Brandon From: Dave Wyatt [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: 17 September 2008 06:20 PM To: Brandon Els Subject: Fw: Minutes - margins in the bicycling industry ----- Original Message ----- From: Fritz Pienaar To: email@example.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Minutes - margins in the bicycling industry Dear bicycle wholesaler and retailer, Thank you for your support and great response in making our industry more healthy. For those of you who were unaware of this meeting here is a quick refresher: "I am sure that most of you are aware that there are a lot of concerns in the retail bicycle industry. There is a lot of rumours about retail shops that are struggling and wholesalers that are not getting paid. This causes a lot of problems for everyone in the industry and I?m sure that you would agree that it is not a healthy position to be in. I have had numerous meetings with retail shops and wholesalers over the last couple of months and everyone seems to agree that the retail shops are not making enough profit and that something needs to be done about it. The bicycle wholesalers agree that a healthier retail industry would also allow for a healthier wholesale industry." We've had a great response from the meeting on 10th September 2008! With all the mayor bicycle wholesalers and retailers in Gauteng, we've all come to agreement that raising the margins is the resolution to the problem. It is of utmost importance that we sign-up and state that you support this decision, we need everyone?s support to be able to make this change and to be able to implement these changes right away. Click here to see the attendance of the meeting on 10th September 2008 Click here to see the meeting on 10th September 2008 minutes Please click here, to state if you are supportive of higher margins in the Bicycling Retail sector (We recommend that you read the minutes if you were not present at the meeting) Regards, Fritz Pienaar 083 275 2123 PS. Please forward this to all bike shops you know of, or wholesalers that did not attend.