Hi, As CycleBuzz is mentioned in this tread (of which I am the owner) I think it would only be appropiate to shed some light on this much debated and controversial subject. Some facts: I did testing of these "Chinese" frames for over two years before I decided to import them, and never had any failure what so ever. In fact the response were so overwhelmed and positive that I am confidently extending the original 2 year gaurantee to a 3 year gaurantee as of 2011, and all the frames that have been sold over the last 2 years will automatically be included in this new gaurantee. Even pro tri-athletes are using some of my TT framesets, not to mention the new sponsorship of a top pro team in 2011 (the team would be announced shortly) which will all be riding UZZIEL Zohar hardtails (that is what the carbon frames imported by CycleBuzz CC would be "branded" as) in the future. So, WATCH THIS SPACE!!!!!!! Many hours were spent in the saddle of these bikes, I am riding a Carbon UZZIEL Zohar myself and it is also extensively used as the main test and demo bike, so far NO FAILURE of any kind. I did the 2010 Transbaviaans 230km extreme MTB race on this frame as well as all the training for this race on this bike. It took us 18 hours to finish this race and spent on average 8 hours on weekends preparing for this race. Surely if it was poorly build or bad material were used it would have failed a long time time ago. In my search for a suitable carbon bike supplier, I made a shocking discovery that most of the carbon frames are made in China. These manufacturers are also not scared to mention for whom they are making frames. But I want to establish my own brand in SA at a very competative price, with not good, but with OUTSTANDING craftmenship quality and an industry leading gaurantee to back the frames. I have even taken some of the frames for testing at a local carbon fiber specialist and were given the green light as far as quality and strength are concerned. Some of the achievements of the riders who are riding UZZIEL carbon bikes. Magoebaskloof MTB Challenge 1st Ride Crater cruise 56km 6th Outdshoorn 2 day stage race 1st on day 1, 2nd on day 2 and 1st overall These results have been obtained by our first sponsored rider, who have been with us for only 3 months so far. We at CycleBuzz are trying our best to make cycling in SA as afordable as possible, we also support the local cycling distributors. Our bikes are not standard of the shelf bikes, we build every bike with passion and pride, according to our customers needs and prefferance. We give the customer what they want and need. Our bikes and parts are meticously scrutinied before selling them and above all we give only the best components, and the best value for money. Our bikes are truly unique in the sense that the customer decide on the components, the look of the frame etc. No one else in the cycling industry are able to do this, except if you are a pro rider. We will let you feel, and look like a pro at a fraction of the cost of a standard bike from a well named brand. Look at the following amazing deals: Road Full carbon fiber road frameset (incl. frame, fork, handlebar, stem, seatpost, bottlecage) Full Campagnolo Super Record 11 speed groupset (2011 tit) Campagnola Bora Ultra Two wheelset Time I-Clic Titan Carbon pedals Time ULTeam Carbon Air Flow saddle Vredestein Fortezza Tri Comp tires The customer can choose between 7 frame styles, 3 handlebar styles and 2 forks, straight or wavy and can decide on any paint scheme. Price: R53 000 Other brands will ask between R70 000 and R120 000!!!! MTB Full carbon hardtail frameset (incl. frame, handlebar, stem, seatpost, bottlecage) Full SRAM XX 2x10 groupset RockShox SiD World Cup XX front suspension Fulcrum Red Metal Zero Tubeless wheelset Vredestein Killer Bee's UST Tubeless tires Crank-It Titan Gel saddle Time Atac XS Titan Carbon pedals These are just two examples, there are countless more. The possibilities are endless!!!!! The customer can choose between 5 frame styles, and have 2 handlebar options, and can decide on any paint scheme. Price: R40 000 Other brands will ask between R50 000 and R85 000 As can be seen, we give the cycling public good value for their hard earned cash, and making them feel like champions! Please feel free to contact me should you have ANY questions in this regard, we also give free advice on every product that is available. Regards Gawie Van Der Lith Owner CycleBuzz CC 0827112991