Why don't you go and look at the lip on the bottom of a Spec cage? Or is that beyond your need to try and be facetious? Then tell me the lip is too small. For all the little JB acolytes I'll repeat - with a Spec bottle this problem is absent. But then, this is THE HUB so me the fool for expecting different. What an arrogant reply from an even bigger arrogant arse representing an enormously arrogant bicycle company... Replies like that that will not endear your company or it?s inferior products to the buying public. Hey Arse, I took a look at the lip, and let me tell you? THE LIP IS TOO SMALL Maybe if you look at it, it might look big enough, but then again, it?s a common mental enlargement phenomenon with people whose egos are much larger than their? ehmm... brains? What a D1ck!!!