Ok. So I'm going to reply to this because it the longest but also hopefully respond to some other remarks. And also hopefully take this to Friday... I think firstly I need to clarify my TT riding. I didn't have my full weight on the TT. Maybe not because I thought it couldn't handle it but because, like somebody mentioned, the control is better. My snotty email to Canyon - after what I perceived to be a rude reply - I only mentioned my riding category to emphasize that I know how to ride a bicycle competitively. After them comparing me to a pro I thought this was necessary. I too rode a few races in elite last year and this year I'm in VA... not the point but vastly different from 'A' batch. Around bends I would bear no weight on the top tube. On longer descents, like off the back of Longtom for example, I would take some weight off my legs and 'rest' (still not full load baring) on the top tube when the road allowed it. I feel I need to clarify this as an example was made where I was asked if I would stand on my top tube and jump on it? No of course not - and how I have just explained my illegal top tube riding, it is completely different to putting an 86kg gym bar on it like another person mentioned. I was clearly ignorant before this and didn't realise riding on the top tube was so frowned upon. Maybe if I had consulted the ever wise Hub before, my email to Canyon may have been different? But as Canyon didn't give me any more information other than what a pro earns for a stage victory, I found it necessary to give them a piece of my mind. After never having cracked a top tube before and then cracking 3 in the same place I'm sure you can understand why I thought this has to be an issue with the bike or even a batch issue. My fiery reply to Canyon received no further information than the first email I got from them so I needed answers and this is where I came... I think some have missed the point of my post. This is a 'single center study' as such. I never once advertised that you should not buy the Aeroad because it has a flawed design. This is my experience and I felt people considering the Aeroad should be made aware. If you are over 80kg, occasionally 'ride' on your top tube and planning on getting an Aeroad then I hope you would really consider this information before making your choice. If you are 65kg, never sit on your top tube and you want an Aeroad then this thread is completely irrelevant to you. Or, if you are the first type of person and you believe you are experienced enough, like a pro, to ride your top tube without issues then again this is irrelevant. Another thing I need to clear is that I, in no way expect Canyon to honour the warranty. Not the first time and definitely not the third time! If this is the inherent design of their frame (which it seems so) and riding on your top tube is 'not normal bike use' and 'not normal bike use is not covered in the warranty then that is that. But what I have a problem with is why this is not communicated more clearly? Lots of you say "Ah its common logic"... ***! I'll admit that I had no idea of this 'common logic' (apart from balancing on one foot on my TT and jumping up and down) and I'd hazard a guess to say more that 50% of the viewers of this post are of the same opinion. Check this... Canyon have different classifications for their bikes denominated by numerals... so for example number 1 is for their road bikes and 2 for gravel bikes etc... (maybe my number or class is wrong but you get the point). So the Aeroad comes with a lovely big stick on the down tube 'Class 1' - Road use only. So any issues arising using the Aeroad on a jump track would not be covered by warranty. Road Bike = Road. Gravel Bike = Gravel... duh. This to me is as common as logic gets. Canyon will happily brand their bikes to explain which surface the bike should be ridden on but when it comes to the less 'common' of the logics, like sitting on a top tube, its not mentioned anywhere. As Canyon didn't confirm or deny the occurrence of issues like this one can only assume it happens more than they would care to admit. Perhaps you'll only find the odd case of broken top tubes on the internet because when an Aeroad owner attempts a warranty claim they dont get as upset as I did and no one hears of it any further. This has been hugely distracting and a lot admin that I think a lot of people would rather avoid. Pro's, amateurs and general public ride, sit and descend on their top tube. And in the context of my post why they do it is irrelevant - It happens - illegal or not. As a premium bike manufacturer that targets the general public and weekend warriors, I believe they should take this into account and make it clearer that their top tube is designed to save weight and sitting on it may cause issues - rather than lumping it under 'normal bike use'. Normal bike use for a commute is different to normal bike use for a race? Sunday riders may have a completely different view of normal bike use than an amateur that races ever second weekend - both parties could easily own an Aeroad. If Canyon feel it’s necessary to let their customers know that the Aeroad must not be used on a MTB track then they definitely need to let customers know not to use the top tube. Lots of personal digs here too which are not really necessary but I can understand why. Some comments in my emails I may sound like a **** to you but Canyon had no idea who I was and with very little hesitation assumed my lack of experience. I was angry.. still am. I would just like to highlight from my original post – “It seems to me that manufacturers are trying to save weight anywhere they can with these new age aero frames and they end up compromising their bikes so much that they sit on such a fine line between beneficial and detrimental I would love to hear your guys thoughts and opinions and if anyone has experienced issues like this with their Canyon or even with other bikes. Again I dont want to be scathing but If I had this information at hand when I was making a decision I most likely would not have bought the Aeroad and I hope that potential buyers would appreciate the information.” This was the aim of my post and I tried to make it clear to avoid a lot of the comments that have been posted… but there was always the chance that this would go a little astray… And by they way how do you guys reply so quickly? There were 21 pages of comments I had to go through
