On this issue of supplement....Everyone is saying you have to have gels and a carbohydrate drink when you ride to maximize your nutrition and bla bla bla bla bla, just like the USN logo says "it's all about results", but has ANYONE stopped to consider what all this crap does to your poor kidneys (the organ that has to filter all the synthetic sh*t you pump into your body? or has anyone stopped the USN guy and asked him about the side effects of the crap he peddles to idiots who spend too much time looking at themselves in the gym??? (i'm not dissing on the gym-goers here, i am one too) but life (and exercise) is so much better when you do it naturally....wanna keep energized and hydrated on a ride....bananas and water work GREAT....going for longer that 4 hours...make a sandwich and take extra water...wanna build muscle? eat properly and plan your diet around your training...it's not that hard, just think about it...gels, power drinks and protein/phedra cut *** is just making one or two twat's VERY WEALTHY, (see mr. USN's ride at the epic this year) and your the one who has to live with kidney failure, a limp dick, and all kinds of other complications they didn't mention.