"Cheap Tubeless? Tires?

[Dirtbreath]

No, it helps you find those irritating slow leaks. Also lubricates the tyre to sit nicely on the rim.

[Johan Bornman]

Cut Cut Cut Cut

 

Also on a more speculative note' date=' tubeless tyres have a stronger side wall (which is the vulnerability of going tubeless) and tubeless may or may not be designed to run at lower pressutre than their tubed cousins.

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"Stronger' should be used with caution here. The sidewall casing is just the same as that of a tubed tyre - some companies will use thicker cords and other thinner, improving the TPI or threads per inch. This has an effect on rolling resistance but not really on sidewall strength.

 

It is true that UST tyres have thicker sidewalls and the extra thickness is thanks to more rubber. However, a mm or two of rubber won't make a noticeably stronger sidewall since the stuff is very pliable and flexible.

 

I'll argue that the extra rubber may give you some extra protection against cuts when dry, but in the wet...not. Lubricated rubber cuts like butter and the little bit of extra thickness doesn't make it stronger.

 

Try it for yourself. Cut a piece of rubber, say a piece of bicycle tyre when it is dry and then underwater. You'll notice the difference.

 

To me the most significant difference, and irrtitation of UST tyres is the fat squishy bead. These make the tyres very very difficult to remove and you better make sure you have a strong tyre lever and something to lubricate it with (water from your waterbottle works fine) when you need to do the inevitable on the trail.

 

 

 

 

[Dirtbreath]

The secret to getting these tyres on and off without breaking fingers and tyre levers is to fit the bead (both of them) into the deep section of the rim. Once you get round to the other side you have slack on the tyre allowing it to fit easier over the rim. This works on Mavics but havent tried others.

[JasonW]

mini-hijack, but where can one get a decent but cheap air compressor that will do the job?

[Ox_Wagon]

At the garage?  <?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 

Just to clear something is it possible to convert a wire beaded tire to tubeless?

 

Thanks for all of the feedback.

[Dirtbreath]

Not worth buying one as you will only need it for the first time if at all. TRy borrow one or hire one.

 

There used to be a good video on the Stan's No Tubes site but I would have throttled the guy at the time 'cos he made it look so easy. I think if I had taken the valve cores out I would have come right  with a floor pump.

[Jules]

Is the one at your local garage cheap enough?

[Dirtbreath]

Just to clear something is it possible to convert a wire beaded tire to tubeless?

 

 

Most yes, but not all. Some thinner walled clinchers dont stand a chance.

 

Check out:

http://www.notubes.com/tubeless_about.php

[KDEE]

 

At the garage? 

 

Just to clear something is it possible to convert a wire beaded tire to tubeless?

 

Thanks for all of the feedback.

 

OX, I have a compressor at home, you are welcome to try it... but Im standing outside.....

 

[Ox_Wagon]

  OK I am getting the idea.